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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 04-24-2009, 10:10 AM Thread Starter
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I have a problem with my piston to valve clearance. I must add 0,018mm for the correct clearance. (was my own mistake not giving the pistons with the cyclinders for overboring)

Does anyone know if it is possible to do this without having to redo the nicasil walls in the cyclinders?


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post #2 of 12 (permalink) Old 04-24-2009, 11:05 AM
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kinda amazing the shop did the work without the pistons...when i bored out my harley and built the engine they needed the pistons...its gonna have to be redone

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It was my own fault for not sending the pistons, i have found a shop whos going to try to rehone with diamondstuff. Hopes this works out.
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kinda amazing the shop did the work without the pistons...when i bored out my harley and built the engine they needed the pistons...its gonna have to be redone

+1 they need the pistons and they are honed specifically for each piston individually bc even though they look identical, they aren't...what ever they pick as #1-#4 will have the stay in the location (cylinder) it's honed for..
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i'm just interested now...you just show up with an engine block and say i need some holes bigger? and the size of the holes shouldn't make a difference in valve clearance that is determined by how high the piston goes up, the shape, and if you have had your head milled down

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i'm just interested now...you just show up with an engine block and say i need some holes bigger?

ya know I don't know why this is sooo friggin funny but it is...bc i guess they said, "oh ok sure!!"
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make fun of me eh? lol
i just said to them +1mm every hole because i bought wiseco +1mm. thats the story.
They asked for pistons, i asked why they need them for (i didnt know it was so strict) and they did the job and im stuck now.

Buuut i found a shop who can rematch them for me, i hope
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well you can always make holes bigger...sounds like guy at the shop was being a smart a$$ by doing that job...if he does that kind of work he knows that you need the pistons...what a dick move...

sounds like something that should be on FML.com

"I paid a shop to bore my cylinders to make my pistons fit and they did it without using the pistons and now they don't fit...i just wasted time and money...-FML"

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I have a problem with my piston to valve clearance. I must add 0,018mm for the correct clearance. (was my own mistake not giving the pistons with the cyclinders for overboring)

Does anyone know if it is possible to do this without having to redo the nicasil walls in the cyclinders?


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dude... u said 0.018mm.. that measurement sounds to tight to me... its not even 0.001 thousands of an inch.. its really tight... i think that u will have improper wear with that clearance .... way to tight i think... but who am i.. only a machinist...LOL
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i think the nicasil coating is only about 0.1mm - 0.15mm thick or about .004"-.006" they may be able to hone another .018mm from the bores.... thats less than .001" id say it can be done!
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