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Old 04-03-2011, 11:58 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Yeah, another one of those threads.

Morimoto Mini H1 bi-xenon projectors: $120
Morimoto 5000k bulbs: $20
DDM 35w ballasts: $42
Flat black spray paint: $5

I lost the images I took in the beginning of the process, but nothing really was missed. They look just like the images on the product page. I modified them by painting the shields black, spacing the shield out slightly with foil, stretching the high beam spring, lubing the plunger, and color modding with one washer on each of the two top bolts. Sounds like a lot, but it isn't. These just require a bit of work to get close to perfect, but they're probably just fine out of the box for most. I also installed some superflux LEDs in the corners where the EDM city lights would be.





For this install I actually didn't modify the stock housings at all. No trimming on the headlight housing was required. The low-beam shield came out with a screw and the solenoid wires were ran through existing holes for the old bulb clips. If I didn't decide to paint these black, it would have easily been possible to return to stock.



You can see the effect of painting the shields black in the above pic. In some angles it appears blacked out. Sometimes you can get cool effects with colors.





Oh, I also used a heatgun to separate the housing and lens instead of throwing them in an oven. That always made me feel uneasy.

Before (stock single reflector, 55w DDM 6000k) at 15ft:



After (single projector, 35w Morimoto 5000k) at 15ft:





I just wanted minimal blue. Too much blue at 15ft away means a ton of blue at 50ft away. The further distance away you get, the sharper the cutoff and the more color it will have. Too much blue is distracting, imo. I took them out for aiming against a wall at 50ft last night but forgot my memory card for the camera. Light output with the projectors behind the lens housing cuts the output down a little bit but I also have the advantage of dual projectors since they're bi-xenon.

I gained a ton of width and evenness with the projectors. The stock setup with PnP HID was bright, but too uncontrolled. Lots of glare above the fuzzy cutoff and huge bright spot. With 55w concentrated like that you tend to wash out details in the road. The projectors spread it out nice and even, so now I can light up a whole highway and not blind anyone in the process.

Also, this is the same after shot taken with the same camera as the before shot so as to please those who point out those details.

Looks like I'll finally avoid that "Hey, your headlight is out" comment that I seem to get at least once a week.
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Yeah, another one of those threads.

Morimoto Mini H1 bi-xenon projectors: $120
Morimoto 5000k bulbs: $20
DDM 35w ballasts: $42
Flat black spray paint: $5

I lost the images I took in the beginning of the process, but nothing really was missed. They look just like the images on the product page. I modified them by painting the shields black, spacing the shield out slightly with foil, stretching the high beam spring, lubing the plunger, and color modding with one washer on each of the two top bolts. Sounds like a lot, but it isn't. These just require a bit of work to get close to perfect, but they're probably just fine out of the box for most. I also installed some superflux LEDs in the corners where the EDM city lights would be.





For this install I actually didn't modify the stock housings at all. No trimming on the headlight housing was required. The low-beam shield came out with a screw and the solenoid wires were ran through existing holes for the old bulb clips. If I didn't decide to paint these black, it would have easily been possible to return to stock.



You can see the effect of painting the shields black in the above pic. In some angles it appears blacked out. Sometimes you can get cool effects with colors.





Oh, I also used a heatgun to separate the housing and lens instead of throwing them in an oven. That always made me feel uneasy.

Before (stock single reflector, 55w DDM 6000k) at 15ft:



After (single projector, 35w Morimoto 5000k) at 15ft:





I just wanted minimal blue. Too much blue at 15ft away means a ton of blue at 50ft away. The further distance away you get, the sharper the cutoff and the more color it will have. Too much blue is distracting, imo. I took them out for aiming against a wall at 50ft last night but forgot my memory card for the camera. Light output with the projectors behind the lens housing cuts the output down a little bit but I also have the advantage of dual projectors since they're bi-xenon.

I gained a ton of width and evenness with the projectors. The stock setup with PnP HID was bright, but too uncontrolled. Lots of glare above the fuzzy cutoff and huge bright spot. With 55w concentrated like that you tend to wash out details in the road. The projectors spread it out nice and even, so now I can light up a whole highway and not blind anyone in the process.

Also, this is the same after shot taken with the same camera as the before shot so as to please those who point out those details.

Looks like I'll finally avoid that "Hey, your headlight is out" comment that I seem to get at least once a week.
How do you like them? I was thinking of buying F Sane projectors but the are $275... Yours seem more economical
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Very nice!
might consider doing one soneday, when i swap to only one side fo the headlight i guess.
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How do you like them? I was thinking of buying F Sane projectors but the are $275... Yours seem more economical... Which is better?

Do these come with the Halo?
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How do you like them? I was thinking of buying F Sane projectors but the are $275... Yours seem more economical... Which is better?

Do these come with the Halo?
I'm not sure if FSane is selling the G1 or G3 projectors but you can see a comparison of the light output here towards the bottom of the first post: Projector Comparison:TSX,S2K,SC430,RX330 LS430,TL,E55,FX etc

Or a direct comparison writeup of the G3 vs MH1 here: PnP Projector Kit Comparison: G3 vs mini-H1

I went with the MH1 because (imo) it has far superior performance and an easily replaceable bulb. I also liked the mini-gatling gun shroud better.

There's no included angel eye rings. I'm not a fan of that look. You can easily buy CCFL or LED rings and mount them to the front of the shroud just like any other retrofit. The G1/G3/G5 projectors have the advantage of them being built in if you're into looks over performance.
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I wish I could see them both in person to decide... Compared o the G1, G2, G3 are those smaller?
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That looks awesome!

I need to find me an extra headlight housing to work on it, then change it out.

So many projects so little time.

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Question does it com with step by step instructions? I'm horrble at doing installs like these. I like these a lot better then the halo looking ones...
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Question does it com with step by step instructions? I'm horrble at doing installs like these. I like these a lot better then the halo looking ones...
The internet has a fucking wealth of tut's on these projectors. I've been looking around at tut's for these so I can get a better idea when I do mine here soon.

Complete Mini H1 Retrofit DIY on 8th gen Civic - 8th Generation Honda Civic Forum

How To: Pre-Install Morimoto Mini Tips

HOW TO: HID/PROJECTOR RETROFIT 636

and if you want halo's;

How to: Install Morimoto CCFL Angel Eyes

PS; I posted this while I was pooping.

PSS; I think TRS will send PDF how-to's if you buy the projectors there.
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defiantly a sweet addition to any bike.
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