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post #21 of 108 (permalink) Old 11-12-2012, 02:41 PM
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You should take the MSF course if you don't understand how to upshift and down shift. Especially if your entering a corner you wanna down shift properly to the correct speed
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And that's an EXPERIENCED rider and he is not expected to survive. People love jumping on motorcycles and "learning" to ride as they go. It's not a good combination.
Riding experience has no effect when somebody cuts right in front of you. That is a bad example for anything but the ignorance of car drivers.

For OP: If you want to put your best bets on survival, learn how to read traffic and especially car drivers. Everybody will learn to ride, with a course or without, but not everybody learns to survive...

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Thanks for the responses guys, I appreciate all of your input. To make matters worse, my brakes are extremely low, 3-4mm and my tires aren't in the best condition. I really don't have time for the msf course at the moment so I may just cruise around the neighborhood til I get comfortable.
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I have a few friends that ride, they're helping me a great deal. I rode for about 2 hours Sunday, i feel a lot more comfortable with other riders. I live real close to the lake, and the cool fronts coming through are blowing me all over the place once I hit 40mph.
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Can someone explain the technique used to run through gears at WOT? I've tried to get on it a few times, but my left hand being open on the clutch lever is making me nervous. I know hugging and leaning has a lot to do with it but I need some details.
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How to avoid destroying your tranny:

1- DO A MOTORCYCLE RIDING COURSE!!!!!!!!! You cannot learn it all by yourself. Valentino Rossi didn't, you wont.

2-Learn how to change gears using the clutch. By learning I mean you will do it without thinking and it will be smooth and the correct gear 99% of the time. No false neutrals, no wrong gears, no wheel hoping, etc...

3-After you've mastered the clutch and gearbox use THEN you can perhaps consider clutchless... before that, you'll be just asking for trouble.

4- Keep your tranny away from harms way (**GRAPHIC**)

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I have a few friends that ride, they're helping me a great deal. I rode for about 2 hours Sunday, i feel a lot more comfortable with other riders. I live real close to the lake, and the cool fronts coming through are blowing me all over the place once I hit 40mph.
I have no doubt that learning to ride by yourself while somewhat being "helped" by your friends is in instilling terribly bad habits that will be hard to break later.

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Can someone explain the technique used to run through gears at WOT? I've tried to get on it a few times, but my left hand being open on the clutch lever is making me nervous. I know hugging and leaning has a lot to do with it but I need some details.
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Riding experience has no effect when somebody cuts right in front of you. That is a bad example for anything but the ignorance of car drivers.

For OP: If you want to put your best bets on survival, learn how to read traffic and especially car drivers. Everybody will learn to ride, with a course or without, but not everybody learns to survive...


I have to disagree. How many times have you heard someone say; "I had no choice, I had to lay my bike down." 9 times out of 10 this is BS. Translated it means; "I panicked, fixated on the car and then crashed." People never want to admit they may have not done the correct thing. I realize when someone cuts in front of you it's not your fault but you need to be ready for such things.

There is no substitute for experience but experience built on a foundation of bad habits is not good either. Those bad habits are hard to break.

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To make matters worse, my brakes are extremely low, 3-4mm and my tires aren't in the best condition. I really don't have time for the msf course at the moment so I may just cruise around the neighborhood til I get comfortable.
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I just took it out for about 30 minutes. Every ride I feel more confident, but turning and traffic freak me out. Shifting is getting smoother, I'm releasing the clutch in each gear when downshifting, feels a whole lot better now and its easier for me find neutral. I can't believe how fast 40mph feels on 2 wheels. It's amazing people don't fly off at WOT.
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MSF is probably the best way to learn how to ride a motorcycle. But if that's not available to you then just keep practicing, keep it nice and slow and you'll be fine, but I suggest an empty parking lot instead of streets.

If you have someone you know who rides a motorcycle ask them for some tips on how to ride. Also there are a lot of great books on the subject and as always you can do some research online.


x2 i still didnt feel 100% comfortable on the streets after i took my MSF class so an empty parking lot helped a lot.
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you're asking for advice but you aren't listening and keep with the questions that make me believe you are a train wreck about to happen.

take a damn safety course, make time for it. few hours to complete it vs weeks to months if you get hurt.

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