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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 10-17-2012, 05:00 PM Thread Starter
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2009 zx6r - bike won't start [details and video]

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Here is the situation: Bike was running perfectly fine on Saturday, on Monday morning when I went out to go to work I could not get the bike to start. Here's some background information:

1) Bike goes through the warm-up routine as usual (FI primes, running lights on, guage dial moves, etc)
2) Rectifier has already been replaced, so unless they replaced with an equally crappy one I don't think it is the culprit
3) No FI warning or code
4) Yes, there is fuel in the tank
5) Engine spins when I press the ignition button, but it does not kick into life.
6) The battery is only 1-2 years old, gets the tender-treatment over the winter, should be in okay working order (it is currently hooked up to a trickle charger just in case right now though)

I have a feeling that the spark plugs were not changed at 7500 miles as they are supposed to be; the bike now has 15,000 miles on the clock. As a result, I am thinking that they might be the culprit, and will be picking up new plugs tomorrow evening. In the meantime, I was hoping someone could chime in and either confirm that I am heading in the right direction for now, or if I'm off-base and if something else (such as a dead rectifier) is the more likely culprit.

Here is a quick cell phone video I took so you folks can hear what the bike sounds like when I try to start it:



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If the battery was dead or the charging system was not working you wouldnt see that strong of a turn over on the engine.

Did you pull codes yet? Check your owners manual on how to do that


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I would get more grip out of it if I were to ride on the rim than I would with a Shinko
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Assuming I've done it properly...

- Turn key so that the gauge cluster is on
- Turn ignition/kill switch off, then on
- With the display set to ODO, hold the MODE button for 5 seconds

There are no error codes. The red LED light flashes, but unless I'm crazy the LED always flashes until the bike is actually up an running. Same with the "change oil" or whatever symbol.

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Sounds like no codes are present

Check your fuses first and report back


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Fuses are one of the first things I checked - they are all good. Sorry I did not mention that earlier.

The servo seems to be moving just fine and not getting caught up or anything like that, which doesn't surprise me considering the bike is bone stock.

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Good, one of the first things in diagnosing vehicles is checking the fuses and verifying the battery is not the culprit.

Do you know how to use a multimeter and test sensors?

Sometimes the tip over switch is stuck or the clutch / neutral switch is stuck.


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I do indeed, but I won't have access to one until tomorrow at the earliest or weekend at the latest.

Also, thank you for all the help thus far

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No problemo, talk to you soon then


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that doesnt sound normal to me at all to be honest... maybe the cam quality.

maybe starter if other things u check out arent it .
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Here's a comment made by a member on another forum:

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Rhetorik, it sounds like a fuel problem. Your fuel pump sounds like it's not building pressure.


You either got a bad pressure regulator (just stuck open so that it never builds pressure) or maybe a line popped off your filter inside the tank.

Start with the fuel system. Pull the tank and look at the fuel pump, or see if you can measure fuel pressure.

The way it's cranking like that it's not even TRYING to ignite. But that fuel pump's pitch doesn't change at all.... normally it'll sound like that real quick and then get lower pitched when it builds up pressure. It's not doing that.


Anyways, that's my thought.
Any thoughts on that? My initial response is "wouldn't that show up when I ran the diagnostics?", but please correct me if I'm wrong on that one. If it is plausible, is it a relatively easy fix?

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