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Old 11-08-2012, 09:46 PM   #21 (permalink)
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i think thats what im going to do, apparently the one i bought was first gen of course when the guy had it listed he was saying it was the latest software from bazzaz, so ive decided this time when i go to order a new one im going all out, screw the price i want the best of the best.
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Old 11-08-2012, 11:27 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Bazzaz is a good unit. You'll be happy with the replacement unit... if anything, I'd go for the QS this time round. Definitely worth the extra $.



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Old 12-27-2012, 05:51 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Could anyone please send me a map for slip on as well? I just got the bazzaz unit without AFM unit (no more budget after purchase Ohlins suspension). Greatly appreciated if anyone could send me a map that's dyno tuned for slip on. So I can live without AFM unit for now until later when I have a budget for AFM unit.

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hontron.terry@gmail.com

Thank you so much and greatly appreciated for any support.
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Old 12-27-2012, 07:36 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Go on the Bazzaz website they have a generic slip on map there that you can download
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Old 12-28-2012, 12:10 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Yeah, I am aware that Bazzaz has generic map for download in their website, but someone said the map may be off.

That's why I am trying to ask if anyone would share their maps which are dyno tuned or AFM tuned so it will be better than the Bazzaz generic map.
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Old 12-28-2012, 01:08 AM   #26 (permalink)
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The only good map will be the one you get custom done for your bike... every other map will be off. So you might as well download the one from their website, much of a muchness really
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Old 11-30-2013, 06:48 AM   #27 (permalink)
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resurrecting an old thread to save the next person some time...

I had the same symptoms as the OP. Caught me out in 2 races a couple of weeks ago... with WOT, bike was surging after a lap or so in the 10k-12k range and felt like it was running out of fuel or hitting the limiter.. especially noticable down the straight where we usually run to 16k rpm from 3rd to 6th gears. It would not rev through it and I was being forced to short shift... Ironically, It didnt present itself the day before during practice, but I was going slower as I was sorting suspension..

Also experienced it after a crash in an endurance race a few months ago, but put it down to a faulty wire connection (which I think it was also a problem).....

Fortunately I have a road ZX6r as well and ZX6-Oz's bike was in the same race as mine a couple of weeks ago, running same Bazzazz and QS, the same map... same conditions etc...

His bike was running sweet - actually the fastest it had been around the track by a good 6-8 seconds..but thats another story

Approach to problem was as follows:

Check all wiring and plug connectors- maybe I did something wrong.. This was all clear.

Removed Bazzazz, QS and Harness from race bike and install on Road bike. Everything else was from the road bike... Rode for 3 hrs trying to get the problem to occur...the best I could muster was a light stutter when holding constant throttle... not what I was experiencing on the track..

Decided to change the fuel tanks on the bikes.. after about 10 minutes of riding, I was able to generate the problem. Was able to repeat it several times so pulled over and changed Bazzazz units with the one out of ZX6 -Oz's bike.

Took off again and the bike ran fine for about 5-8 minutes.. then the problem started again... I was holding the revs in the 10k+ range for a while to test a theory...

I was able to replicate it with both Bazzazz Units on the road bike with the Race bike's fuel tank... the bike would carry on as if it was running out of fuel... literally

Changed back to the Road Bike's original tank and went a long way in 1st gear and still had plenty of response whenever I put it to task.. changed Bazzazz unit back to my unit - same result...

so my theory now is that the fuel filter is clogged....when the fuel load was lower than the filter capacity, the bike ran ok..eg when stationary, the filter was able to catch up and fill up. When running at 12k+ rpm for a period of time, the secondary injectors are active and the fuel demand is higher than the clogged filter can flow... so after the first few minutes, while the filter is being drained and the bike is ok, it then starts to run out of instantaneous fuel and results in the surging issue...

I'll be pulling out the pump and filter tomorrow and having a look. Practice day planned at the track next friday so will hopefully have it sorted..

apparantly the manual says that the filter is not serviceable and to replace as a whole pump assembly

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Old 12-01-2013, 06:18 AM   #28 (permalink)
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so today did some more elimination experiments to confirm it was the pump and not an airtight tank causing a vacuum in the tank and not allowing the fuel to flow effectively...

1st - checked fuel pressure - 46psi- 3psi over manual, should be ok...
2nd - checked fuel flow rate- 3 secs - 100mls - double the minimum so that should be ok as well..

rode and caused the problem to occur... then unscrewed the fuel cap ( aftermarket one off race bike).

problem still occurred with cap open sufficiently..

so next was to pull out the fuel pump out of the road bike tank and insert it into the race tank... ran that and could not get the problem to occur

then pulled the problem fuel pump apart and found some debris in the pressure regulator. cleaned the pump and flushed and blew out the filter screen..

Reinstalled it in the road tank and tested it.. all working ok..

Hopefully someone else gets there a bit quicker

Note - pump comes apart fairly easily and it is not a servicable part as they dont sell the filters or pumps separately.... I have seen the pumps for sale on ebay tho...

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