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post #11 of 34 (permalink) Old 11-08-2012, 04:59 PM
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"This tells me that I should ignore you because you told me to ignore people who tell people to ignore people..."

I was wondering if anyone would notice the joke I included.

Like everyone, I have the legal choice for no gloves to gloves designed for MotoGP racing.

My choices are in between, based on years of bicycle and dirt bike crashes where I learned to not instinctively put my hands out during a fall.

I picked gravel out of my palms and had big scabs on my knuckles from wearing no gloves, which made me start wearing cheap gloves and not following my instincts.

I freely accept the risks of any hand injuries possibly caused by not spending $100 plus for a pair of gloves.

If you want expensive kangaroo leather race gloves, buy them.

“Do…not waste time protesting the self-inflated showmen and bloviating bullshitters who populate our culture. It’s more fun to marvel at them, to appreciate them, to be grateful for them, and to mock them relentlessly. ”-from the 2010 book American Freak Show by Willie Geist. "He wondered what difference any of it would make two hundred years from now." -from the book Cyclops by Clive Cussler.
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"This tells me that I should ignore you because you told me to ignore people who tell people to ignore people..."

I was wondering if anyone would notice the joke I included.

Like everyone, I have the legal choice for no gloves to gloves designed for MotoGP racing.

My choices are in between, based on years of bicycle and dirt bike crashes where I learned to not instinctively put my hands out during a fall.

I picked gravel out of my palms and had big scabs on my knuckles from wearing no gloves, which made me start wearing cheap gloves and not following my instincts.

I freely accept the risks of any hand injuries possibly caused by not spending $100 plus for a pair of gloves.

If you want expensive kangaroo leather race gloves, buy them.
Crash on gravel != Crash on pavement.

And you're an idiot to recommend ski or mechanics gloves as safe to use on pavement, they shred almost instantly. They're your hands, but you cannot suggest something you know isn't safe to new riders... that's like suggesting they ride without a helmet.

Of course I'm generalizing from a single example here, but everyone does that. At least I do.


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I've worn and wrecked in a pair of icon pursuits, they held up perfectly, didn't even look damaged. These were vented which is nice, but makes them unusable when it gets colder.

I've got a pair of A*'s now, I want to say SP1's and they're great and offer more protection on my forearm which got torn up when I wrecked. But these take forever to take on and off compared to the pursuits.

Get whatever you want, but for the love of god get motorcycle gloves. Mechanics, skiing, outdoors, gardening gloves will do nothing but cause regret when they touch the ground and ruin your hand.
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find a used set of helds... either the phantoms or the titans. best glove you can buy, but you'd have to stretch the budget a TAD... like $30-60 maybe.


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find a used set of helds... either the phantoms or the titans. best glove you can buy, but you'd have to stretch the budget a TAD... like $30-60 maybe.
+1

Of course I'm generalizing from a single example here, but everyone does that. At least I do.


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I can only recommend the gloves that work well for me, or a memorable review I have seen. Others will always add what they think is better.

My main advice is to learn to NOT reach out with your hands when you crash, on dirt or pavement.

I started to unlearn my instinct to reach for the ground while falling in about 1969, when I was 10 years old, after injuring my hands several times from instinctive behavior, probably designed to grab for branches while falling out of a tree.

This reminds me of Mark Lawrence, who I do not always agree with, especially for his lack of safety gear and about airbags, but I still like his writing:

"I've owned 28 motorcycles to date - 12 Suzukis, 8 Hondas, 3 Yamahas, and 4 Harleys. I've been about 545,000 miles on motorcycles. I've been in every one of the 48 lower states, on a motorcycle, wearing shorts, t-shirt and sandals. For some strange reason, a lot of people seem to like to tell me I'm stupid for riding in shorts, t-shirt and sandals...I used to race dirt bikes in the Mojave desert, but under those conditions I wore somewhat more clothing.

I currently ride a Harley FLHRC Road King Classic and a Suzuki DL650 V-Strom.

I own California Scientific, the world leader in Neural Network based artificial intelligence. ...I don't make any money when you buy something from someone else."

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I can only recommend the gloves that work well for me, or a memorable review I have seen. Others will always add what they think is better.

My main advice is to learn to NOT reach out with your hands when you crash, on dirt or pavement.

I started to unlearn my instinct to reach for the ground while falling in about 1969, when I was 10 years old, after injuring my hands several times from instinctive behavior, probably designed to grab for branches while falling out of a tree.

This reminds me of Mark Lawrence, who I do not always agree with, especially for his lack of safety gear and about airbags, but I still like his writing:

"I've owned 28 motorcycles to date - 12 Suzukis, 8 Hondas, 3 Yamahas, and 4 Harleys. I've been about 545,000 miles on motorcycles. I've been in every one of the 48 lower states, on a motorcycle, wearing shorts, t-shirt and sandals. For some strange reason, a lot of people seem to like to tell me I'm stupid for riding in shorts, t-shirt and sandals...I used to race dirt bikes in the Mojave desert, but under those conditions I wore somewhat more clothing.

I currently ride a Harley FLHRC Road King Classic and a Suzuki DL650 V-Strom.

I own California Scientific, the world leader in Neural Network based artificial intelligence. ...I don't make any money when you buy something from someone else."

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Look at Jorge Lorenzo last year!?!?! He lost a part of his finger while wearing the arguably best racing grade gloves out there....

You are crazy for telling people to try out something that wasn't made for motorcycle road use.

Please just stop recommending people your ideas, you really scare me.
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I can only recommend the gloves that work well for me, or a memorable review I have seen. Others will always add what they think is better.

My main advice is to learn to NOT reach out with your hands when you crash, on dirt or pavement.

I started to unlearn my instinct to reach for the ground while falling in about 1969, when I was 10 years old, after injuring my hands several times from instinctive behavior, probably designed to grab for branches while falling out of a tree.

This reminds me of Mark Lawrence, who I do not always agree with, especially for his lack of safety gear and about airbags, but I still like his writing:

"I've owned 28 motorcycles to date - 12 Suzukis, 8 Hondas, 3 Yamahas, and 4 Harleys. I've been about 545,000 miles on motorcycles. I've been in every one of the 48 lower states, on a motorcycle, wearing shorts, t-shirt and sandals. For some strange reason, a lot of people seem to like to tell me I'm stupid for riding in shorts, t-shirt and sandals...I used to race dirt bikes in the Mojave desert, but under those conditions I wore somewhat more clothing.

I currently ride a Harley FLHRC Road King Classic and a Suzuki DL650 V-Strom.

I own California Scientific, the world leader in Neural Network based artificial intelligence. ...I don't make any money when you buy something from someone else."

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Of course people tell him he's stupid, he IS stupid, and so are you.

Might as well not be wearing gloves at all if you're going to wear those that you recommended.

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Everyone knows that MotoGP riders wear the safest gear available and still sometimes get injured.

So far we have the freedom to wear whatever gear we want, including no helmet in several states. In Kentucky you only have to wear a helmet your first year of riding. We also still have the freedom to write about what we choose, even if others choose differently.
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For a new rider- wear the safest gear you can afford, on the smallest and oldest bike you can stand, until you start to improve your riding skills (at least 10,000 miles is usually what experienced riders write).

Note that long straight roads teach you next to nothing- get on the curvy country roads to learn cornering and braking, preferably for hills and later mountains.

The older 250cc and 500cc Ninjas are a pretty good choice, but a dirt bike used off-road before you are 16 years old is even better.

Get a 2008 or newer 250 Ninja if you must have newer sportbike looks. Insecure cruiser riders often start with a Harley Sportster, but a 500cc Buell Blast, Suzuki S40 or Yamaha 250cc Virago are better choices because they are lighter and cheaper.

After you have been riding 10,000 miles, do whatever the hell you want, unless the nanny state do-gooders finally take all of our freedoms.

“Do…not waste time protesting the self-inflated showmen and bloviating bullshitters who populate our culture. It’s more fun to marvel at them, to appreciate them, to be grateful for them, and to mock them relentlessly. ”-from the 2010 book American Freak Show by Willie Geist. "He wondered what difference any of it would make two hundred years from now." -from the book Cyclops by Clive Cussler.
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Dude why are you even still here? You're not even on gloves anymore.

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