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Old 11-10-2012, 04:45 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Everyone knows that MotoGP riders wear the safest gear available and still sometimes get injured.

So far we have the freedom to wear whatever gear we want, including no helmet in several states. In Kentucky you only have to wear a helmet your first year of riding. We also still have the freedom to write about what we choose, even if others choose differently.
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For a new rider- wear the safest gear you can afford, on the smallest and oldest bike you can stand, until you start to improve your riding skills (at least 10,000 miles is usually what experienced riders write).

Note that long straight roads teach you next to nothing- get on the curvy country roads to learn cornering and braking, preferably for hills and later mountains.

The older 250cc and 500cc Ninjas are a pretty good choice, but a dirt bike used off-road before you are 16 years old is even better.

Get a 2008 or newer 250 Ninja if you must have newer sportbike looks. Insecure cruiser riders often start with a Harley Sportster, but a 500cc Buell Blast, Suzuki S40 or Yamaha 250cc Virago are better choices because they are lighter and cheaper.

After you have been riding 10,000 miles, do whatever the hell you want, unless the nanny state do-gooders finally take all of our freedoms.

Yeah, you're right. You got the freedom to be an idiot giving out such dangerous tips.

People here are differing to your opinion because they don't want newbies to lose their hands.

As far as in my experience as an aggressive back roads rider, bare hands give me more worry on the street than proper motorcycle gloves. I prefer head to toe protection over skimping some in exchange for comfort. Infact, I have no problem with comfort issues.

Worry about heat? There are such gloves that are designed for summers. Cold? There's always winter designed motorcycle gloves.

So in my freedom of writing defense, I do not ever recommend any "tough" gloves that was not designed with motorcycle road use in mind. Meaning people should ignore your post anyways.
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Old 11-10-2012, 06:00 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Everyone knows that MotoGP riders wear the safest gear available and still sometimes get injured.

So far we have the freedom to wear whatever gear we want, including no helmet in several states. In Kentucky you only have to wear a helmet your first year of riding. We also still have the freedom to write about what we choose, even if others choose differently.
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For a new rider- wear the safest gear you can afford, on the smallest and oldest bike you can stand, until you start to improve your riding skills (at least 10,000 miles is usually what experienced riders write).

Note that long straight roads teach you next to nothing- get on the curvy country roads to learn cornering and braking, preferably for hills and later mountains.

The older 250cc and 500cc Ninjas are a pretty good choice, but a dirt bike used off-road before you are 16 years old is even better.

Get a 2008 or newer 250 Ninja if you must have newer sportbike looks. Insecure cruiser riders often start with a Harley Sportster, but a 500cc Buell Blast, Suzuki S40 or Yamaha 250cc Virago are better choices because they are lighter and cheaper.

After you have been riding 10,000 miles, do whatever the hell you want, unless the nanny state do-gooders finally take all of our freedoms.
What in the fuck brought this rant? No one asked about what's the best bike to learn on....... this thread is about gloves, which you recommended gloves that would be worthless on the pavement.... so I guess by you're logic a bicycle helmet would also be appropriate for a motorcycle.......
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Old 11-10-2012, 07:14 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I've lowsided on the street twice so far (did around 50 000km in 3 seasons) with 2 different gloves.
A* SP-8 perforated leather, full gauntlet. Still in 1 piece after the road rash only PU knuckle protection rest is double layered leather with foam padding.



The other glove was a lot more advanced (thank god). Leather with Kangaroo palm, outer seams around the fingers, perforated, titanium knuckle sliders, platic and foam inserts on finger joints. That Berik glove fits me great, feels awesome, was only $150 and still looks really good for the sanding it got from the 80ft slide.



STG got some awesome deals.

I'd go for the Alpinestar SP-2 (prev 2012 model) or the TEKNIC Lightning Glove.
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Same as a good helmet I find it very important to protect our thin boned fingers. Besides our Brain (and all the other organs in the head) fingers are the most precise and precious tool we got.

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Old 11-11-2012, 11:44 AM   #24 (permalink)
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My last motorcycle street crash was in 1984. I take street corners at low speeds in my 50s.

I last rashed a hand during a crash in about 1968, and I crashed hundreds of times from 10 to 15 years old, learning to not fall hands first. I spend less on gloves and more on other things. Your priorities and circumstances are probably very different.

If you ride fast or are a new rider, spend as much as you can on gloves (and boots and a helmet).

This guy below has raced and has rode over half a million miles, and chooses to wear less for gloves than me on the street. I think he has the right to post his choices. If you disagree, you do not have to be a rude asshole and call him stupid. You could just post your favorite safer gloves, more for race use. He sells some nice aftermarket windshields:

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Old 11-11-2012, 11:51 AM   #25 (permalink)
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You're still a moron, Jeff. Linking another site for someone who doesn't wear adequate gear doesn't get you off the hook. It merely means there are others out there just as retarded as you.
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Old 11-12-2012, 12:53 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Every summer I see hundreds of riders on the street choose less gear than me- some with no helmet, no gloves, no shirt, shorts and sandals. At least when it gets colder the more squidly cover more skin to stay warmer.

Not everyone is willing to buy or wear the best gear for street use.

I hope people that decide to wear less than the best gear have good health insurance like me, including for privately owned tracks that always have stricter gear requirements than the states.

Maybe we should have DOT requirements for both helmets and gloves- I would wear better, less comfortable gloves if I was forced to or pay a big fine.
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It's crazy that you don't get the point at all.
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I get the point. It is my choice, along with the millions of other riders who do not wear the best gear for street riding, often legally.
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Old 11-14-2012, 06:37 PM   #29 (permalink)
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You're still not getting it Jeff.
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I've never not ridden without gloves. The handful of times that I have not worn a jacket, I still wore gloves.

Had I gone down one of those few times, yeah, I would have been in a shitload of pain from not having a jacket on. However, I would still be able to wipe my own ass and take care of myself in general. My hands wouldn't be wrapped in bandages.

If my hands are good and I'm walking, I can at the very least go to work.

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