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Old 11-21-2012, 11:12 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello everyone, glad to finally get around to registering for the forums.

Relative newbie, have been riding my cbr 125 for two years and passed my test this summer and finally managed to get my er6

Always loved the Kawasaki styling and wanted a Ninja since forever, but the naked look of the ER6-n really appealed to me and have loved every mile on it since.

I'm based in the UK (near London) so I have a few nice routes to ride when the weather is permitting, and I commute to uni every day on the bike so I'm gaining experience. Looking forward to talking with fellow Kawi riders and being a part of the community.

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Was that DAS or do you have a restricted licence?

If the latter, does that mean that after the end of the restriction you'll have an unlimited licence or a 47 bhp licence?

Got two different answers to that question.

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Was that DAS or do you have a restricted licence?

If the latter, does that mean that after the end of the restriction you'll have an unlimited licence or a 47 bhp licence?

Got two different answers to that question.

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Hi,

I did the DAS, but I've copied the information from the government website for the new licence rules for motorbikes effective Jan 13.
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Originally Posted by .gov.uk

Taking the full motorcycle tests

All riders have to pass the theory test before taking the motorcycle practical test.

You can take the practical test on a motorcycle of between 75cc and 125cc.

The licence you’ll get depends on the type of bike you take the test on:

a light motorcycle licence (A1), which restricts you to ride bikes of up to 125cc and with a power output of 11kW
a standard motorcycle licence (A), if you take the test on a bike of over 120cc but not more than 125cc and capable of traveling at least 62mph
If you get the standard motorcycle licence you’ll be restricted for 2 years to riding bikes of up to 25kW power output and a power/weight ratio not exceeding 0.16kW/kg.

After the 2 years you can then ride any size of bike.
And finally a link to the page detailing the "direct access" for those over 21.

https://www.gov.uk/ride-motorcycle-m...lerated-access

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But the rules change on January 19th and will be very different, with the introduction of new m/c and moped licences, the end of the 33 bhp class and a new A2 licence for 47 bhp bikes. What you've posted is the current rules.

The age for Direct Access rises to 24.

For the 47 bhp class you either have to have two years post test experience on a 15 bhp 125 (passing a test on that class of bike now only gives you the A1 licence) or be at least 19 (which is effectively the same thing anyway) and take a test on a 400cc bike for the 47 bhp licence. Riders with the A1 licence wil not have to take the Theory test and will take a shorter practical test. Riders without it will take tests similar to the DAS.

At 21, if you've held the A2 licence for two years you'll be able to take the short test (on a 600cc bike) for an A licence. If you haven't, you'll have to wait until you're 24 to take DAS.

If you have a full unrestricted licence, as you have, the changes won't affect you, but the point of my question was that for riders who've passed their test on a 125 and are still under the 33 bhp restriction on January 19th, then under the transitional arrangements, at the end of the two year restriction they'll (this is answering my own original question) only have an A2 licence for the 47 bhp class. They'll have to keep that licence for two years then take another test on a bike of 600cc for the full A licence.

The link to the new rules is somewhere on the .gov site. I was going to upload my MS Word copy, but the abbreviated version which I use as a reference is still 5 times the forum's maximum size limit. That document doesn't fully cover the transitional arrangements, which is why I asked the question and why I've had to do some more digging.

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