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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 11-23-2012, 04:44 AM Thread Starter
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Good bike to buy?

I have a 2008 Ninja 250r and I feel I have out grown it, well actually I felt that way about 3 weeks after buying it but I decided to keep it and master the basics of riding on it. 4k miles later I now have the money to upgrade, looking on Craigslist I saw a Honda CBR600 F4i. I know, it isn't a Kawi; however in Phoenix the ZX6R goes for a ton. R6's and GSXR's are every where and pretty cheap, I figured if I couldn't get a ZX6R in my price range it would have to be a Honda.

Here is the bike's link 2002 Honda CBR F4i

I ran a blue book value on the bike, in excellent condition it retails at 3,050. With the fairing damage to the bike it will set me back 400 dollars with shipping and tax. I just sent the guy an email but I figure I can get him down to 2,700 straight cash with all the damage and since he has it over priced. I would like this guy to take it to a real mechanic and get it fully checked out, but does this bike seem fishy to anyone or a pretty good deal?
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post #2 of 13 (permalink) Old 11-23-2012, 03:26 PM
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You feel that you've outgrown the 250 because you haven't learned how to ride it properly. Do another 6,000 miles on it. When you stop feeling you've outgrown it and you've learned to really enjoy it you're ready to move up.

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Uhh that 3000 from kbb is including dealer fees and such. So with the fairing crack a good price would be 2300-2500.

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Low retail nada is 2800. But like I said I would pay Max 2700.

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Seems the F4I are making a bit of a comeback. Alot in our area look to be sub 3K $$ land and are actually pretty good bikes. Decent power, comfy and easy to ride. Plus they get over looked by the guys that HAVE to get the 600RR.


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I talked the guy down to 2,650. He says he doesn't have the time to take it to a mechanic to have it checked out before he sells it, I bought my 250 after having a guy take it to the local kawasaki shop to have it inspected and test rode it after doing my own inspection. I am leaning towards buying it but what all should I look for if I do go and take a look at it other than the usual tire tread, front fork leaks, chain condition and such. I just worry about buying a bike that will have either the motor blow or transmission.

I would like a 600RR but double the price isn't worth the minimal performance improvement between the 2, besides my penis is big enough I don't need to compensate. I am surprised at how good the F4i looks on paper, a 600CC sports bike with plenty of power for super cheap compared to the 600RR. My plan all along was to buy a 250, learn the basics of riding, sell it and upgrade to a 600 when I feel ready to handle it, then buy a brand new either 600RR or 1000CC sportsbike after a year or 2 of the 600. So far I am on track, I decided against my own desires and my friends suggestions to just get a 600 right away. Probably why I am still alive and didn't slam into the back of a car when i first started riding.

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That's fine if the seller doesn't have time write it into a selling agreement you both sign. Just type up something that says you have a week to get it checked out for any major mechanical problems. You can even put a dollar amount threshold. Say if the mechanic finds problems adding up to or more than 800 dollars ( just an example) the sale becomes null and void.

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This article below compares the F4i with some similar bikes- I chose to buy the ZZR600 instead:


http://www.mcnews.com/mcn/model_eval/200512-600s.pdf

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I talked the guy down to 2,650. He says he doesn't have the time to take it to a mechanic to have it checked out before he sells it, I bought my 250 after having a guy take it to the local kawasaki shop to have it inspected and test rode it after doing my own inspection. I am leaning towards buying it but what all should I look for if I do go and take a look at it other than the usual tire tread, front fork leaks, chain condition and such. I just worry about buying a bike that will have either the motor blow or transmission.
Read through this a few times, highlight the important things, and make yourself up a checklist of things to inspect when you go and look at it:

Used Motorcycle Evaluation Guide

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I talked the guy down to 2,650. He says he doesn't have the time to take it to a mechanic to have it checked out before he sells it, I bought my 250 after having a guy take it to the local kawasaki shop to have it inspected and test rode it after doing my own inspection. I am leaning towards buying it but what all should I look for if I do go and take a look at it other than the usual tire tread, front fork leaks, chain condition and such. I just worry about buying a bike that will have either the motor blow or transmission.

I would like a 600RR but double the price isn't worth the minimal performance improvement between the 2, besides my penis is big enough I don't need to compensate. I am surprised at how good the F4i looks on paper, a 600CC sports bike with plenty of power for super cheap compared to the 600RR. My plan all along was to buy a 250, learn the basics of riding, sell it and upgrade to a 600 when I feel ready to handle it, then buy a brand new either 600RR or 1000CC sportsbike after a year or 2 of the 600. So far I am on track, I decided against my own desires and my friends suggestions to just get a 600 right away. Probably why I am still alive and didn't slam into the back of a car when i first started riding.
I would still advise sticking to that 250 for a while. The jump from a 250 to a 600 is huge. I been riding for 13 years and drove a XV 535 long before I made the jump to my kawi... its your skin mate but someone else already gave you some good advice. What you do with it is up to you.

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