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Old 12-12-2012, 03:36 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Garibay - with respect, you have three months riding experience. Not enough t o have a valid opinion. Ride your 650 for a couple of years, then go down to a 250 and see how much you'll learn. Come back again when you're an experienced rider - about 50,000 miles - and see if your opinion has changed then.

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I know, thats why i put i only had 3 months experience. Also, i've ridden a 250 before and its obviously going to be easier, i dont think anyone can argue that. I knew people would take my post out of context.



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Old 12-12-2012, 03:45 PM   #42 (permalink)
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I seriously think someone that has been a member on here for a long time keeps playing these games. They'll create a new account and give us a full description of what they want(most of the time a bigger bike) and see how argumentative people get because a noob is about to do a very noob thing. Because if I remember correctly every time I see a new member post they're usually a one sentence post. So if this is a veteran member and you keep pulling these crazy posts all I have to say is.... Your caught 😬


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Old 12-12-2012, 03:57 PM   #43 (permalink)
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I seriously think someone that has been a member on here for a long time keeps playing these games. They'll create a new account and give us a full description of what they want(most of the time a bigger bike) and see how argumentative people get because a noob is about to do a very noob thing. Because if I remember correctly every time I see a new member post they're usually a one sentence post. So if this is a veteran member and you keep pulling these crazy posts all I have to say is.... Your caught 😬


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Lol the thing is, all of the scenarios have had their own thread before, yet a new one is always created.
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Old 12-13-2012, 07:34 AM   #44 (permalink)
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Are you the guy constantly changing lanes because he thinks the one next to him is going to be moving slightly faster? That shit is annoying.
No.

We ride in between the lanes and don't annoy anybody because usually we've been and gone before anybody in a car has realised that we were ever there. Skilled riders can do that safely at about 20 - 30 mph over the traffic speed when the traffic's moving at around 60 - 70 mph. Much more satisfying than just filtering through near stationary traffic.

In over 40 years and 800,000 miles I've never come near to having an accident doing that, or a ticket. My few offs have been losing it on icy roads or spilt diesel - apart from one trying to outcorner a VFR400 on a shaft drive XJ900 with full touring fairing. That wasn't one of my better ideas lol.

Venom - there was a shortage of horses in the early 80s. I think I only had about 90. They were inside the aforementioned fairing.

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Old 12-13-2012, 07:39 AM   #45 (permalink)
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I know, thats why i put i only had 3 months experience. Also, i've ridden a 250 before and its obviously going to be easier, i dont think anyone can argue that. I knew people would take my post out of context.



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Fair enough.

The 250 isn't easier. It gives more confidence and the lower maximum speeds are arguably safer, but to maintain the same speeds on a 250 as you can on a 650 (quite an easy thing to do on the street) the 250 demands more work, more concentration and more skill.

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Old 12-13-2012, 07:53 AM   #46 (permalink)
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I seriously think someone that has been a member on here for a long time keeps playing these games. They'll create a new account and give us a full description of what they want(most of the time a bigger bike) and see how argumentative people get because a noob is about to do a very noob thing. Because if I remember correctly every time I see a new member post they're usually a one sentence post. So if this is a veteran member and you keep pulling these crazy posts all I have to say is.... Your caught ��
Um, NO...It simply doesn't work that way on this forum.
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No.

We ride in between the lanes and don't annoy anybody because usually we've been and gone before anybody in a car has realised that we were ever there. Skilled riders can do that safely at about 20 - 30 mph over the traffic speed when the traffic's moving at around 60 - 70 mph. Much more satisfying than just filtering through near stationary traffic.

In over 40 years and 800,000 miles I've never come near to having an accident doing that, or a ticket. My few offs have been losing it on icy roads or spilt diesel - apart from one trying to outcorner a VFR400 on a shaft drive XJ900 with full touring fairing. That wasn't one of my better ideas lol.

Venom - there was a shortage of horses in the early 80s. I think I only had about 90. They were inside the aforementioned fairing.

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Lane splitting is A LOT SAFER than people in cars or riders that don't do it think , granted you have enough experience and have good traffic patern reading, just last night it saved me from getting rear ended FOR SURE I will save that story for today's thread when I get to work .

But I don't like to lane split too much at over 20 mph , people in the states get upset and some ( a minority) will try to knock you off the bike which even if you have complete and good traffic readings skills , that depend on reading the traffic it throws you off because it is a deliberate attempt to try to make you crash which then falls on your crash avoiding skills.

And how many of those 800k miles were while riding a horse :P sorry Rob , I had to haha
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Old 12-13-2012, 09:25 AM   #48 (permalink)
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Lane splitting is A LOT SAFER than people in cars or riders that don't do it think , granted you have enough experience and have good traffic patern reading, just last night it saved me from getting rear ended FOR SURE I will save that story for today's thread when I get to work .
Law enforcement in NJ tends to disagree.

That said, I still do it if traffic's bad and mostly stationary. But, then you have the Pineys in South Jersey who start riding the line in their lifted trucks.

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No.

We ride in between the lanes and don't annoy anybody because usually we've been and gone before anybody in a car has realised that we were ever there. Skilled riders can do that safely at about 20 - 30 mph over the traffic speed when the traffic's moving at around 60 - 70 mph. Much more satisfying than just filtering through near stationary traffic.

In over 40 years and 800,000 miles I've never come near to having an accident doing that, or a ticket. My few offs have been losing it on icy roads or spilt diesel - apart from one trying to outcorner a VFR400 on a shaft drive XJ900 with full touring fairing. That wasn't one of my better ideas lol.

Venom - there was a shortage of horses in the early 80s. I think I only had about 90. They were inside the aforementioned fairing.

Rob

I see. I've ridden in California and split and filtered there, but I would be pretty hesitant to try that kind of thing here. To many rednecks that have it out for motorbikes. I actually had a guy swerve to hit my and a friend with his truck and trailer when we passed him on a two lane road. 'Merica is not the most motorcycle friendly place in the world.
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