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Old 12-12-2012, 07:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi all, just registered after spending a month reading these boards. I will be getting my motorcycle license soon, already have a car license but didnt quite like cars cost amd freedom wise. Long story short a friend took me on the back of his Ninja 400.

Now comes a point where I must choose my own first bike. I have never ridden a bike before except for learning and getting the bike license. I am 6'1 and weigh at 240 pounds. So advice me between a 250r or a 650r.

Some points to consider, from most of the places my house is 35km of highway. Also moneu is not an issue. I will admit I tend to get a little throttle/pedal heavy at times. I have looked at a 2002 250r with 16k km for 2,000 USD. Another 650r 2009 for 5,000 USD.

Another point to note is that for the first year I will have a probationary license, which means no fast lane or going above 70km/h legally. Would be nice to get some help and views. Also what to look for when buying a second hand bike? Thanks!
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i wouldn't go for a 250. You will quickly wish you had something quicker. Ninja 500 is always a good starter bike. When buying a second hand bike, first and foremost, make sure you are comfortable when sitting on it. Check the tire tread, check clutch (make sure it doesn't slip), check all lights (break, turn signal, headlight, etc.), clean title, and make sure it doesn't sound wack. That's when you know something isn't normal.
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i wouldn't go for a 250. You will quickly wish you had something quicker. Ninja 500 is always a good starter bike. When buying a second hand bike, first and foremost, make sure you are comfortable when sitting on it. Check the tire tread, check clutch (make sure it doesn't slip), check all lights (break, turn signal, headlight, etc.), clean title, and make sure it doesn't sound wack. That's when you know something isn't normal.
Bullshit. The Ninja 250R exceeds every rider's need for legal street riding. You can't get a better "training" bike. I say "training" because one, they're one of the best bikes you can start out on and two, that being said, they're capable of being pushed hard. Once you get a few thousand miles on it and really figure out what you're doing, they're fun as hell.

Try to find a 2008+ model Ninja 250R. They look better than the 2007 and older models. The 2008's can be had for as low as $2,000.

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Old 12-12-2012, 11:59 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Thanks for the replies guys. My only worry with the 250r was the highway miles. The price of a second hand 250r 2008 or above is about 5-6k USD, I think this has to do with the demand here or Im not quite sure why. Im living in Hong Kong btw, a low mileage 650r 2009 is cheaper than a 2009 or 2010 250r.
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The 250 will fit your needs and you'll learn more from riding it than you will from a bigger bike.

With a 40 mph speed restriction the 250 will allow you exceed that by about 120%. It's OK for highway cruising in the low 80s (mph)- that's about 120 kph.

fshane, btw, has only been riding for a few days, has no idea what he's talking about, and is trying to justify his own erroneous purchase of a 500 as a first bike.by giving poor advice to ther new riders.

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Old 12-13-2012, 07:44 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Hi all, just registered after spending a month reading these boards. I will be getting my motorcycle license soon, already have a car license but didnt quite like cars cost amd freedom wise. Long story short a friend took me on the back of his Ninja 400.
If you have been reading the boards for a few months now then you will have seen hundreds of threads that start out by saying the exact same thing. In which case you already have your answer.

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Now comes a point where I must choose my own first bike. I have never ridden a bike before except for learning and getting the bike license. I am 6'1 and weigh at 240 pounds. So advice me between a 250r or a 650r
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This too sounds familiar. Your weight and height really arent an issue what stands out is Now comes a point where I must choose my own first bike. I have never ridden a bike before except for learning and getting the bike license.

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Some points to consider, from most of the places my house is 35km of highway.
Not a point to consider at all, as has already been said by one of my learned friends here the 250 (or 300 if you go for a new one) will get you where youre going to legally just as fast and safer than anything else.

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Also moneu is not an issue.
A good reason to go for a new 300 in stead of a second hand 250.

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I will admit I tend to get a little throttle/pedal heavy at times. I have looked at a 2002 250r with 16k km for 2,000 USD. Another 650r 2009 for 5,000 USD.
A good reason to go for a 50cc until you learn to control that throttle.


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Another point to note is that for the first year I will have a probationary license, which means no fast lane or going above 70km/h legally. Would be nice to get some help and views. Also what to look for when buying a second hand bike? Thanks!
I think the answers to this point is covered above quite nicely.

If you're still not sure here's a taste of reality for you.

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fshane, btw, has only been riding for a few days, has no idea what he's talking about, and is trying to justify his own erroneous purchase of a 500 as a first bike.by giving poor advice to ther new riders.
I noticed that also. It's like a virgin giving sex advice after giving themselves their first handjob.
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Maybe Im a post whore or maybe I'm a stubborn old git and have to prove a point. Either way heres a couple of other vids which should get you salivating.




Maybe if you lived in Germany, driving on the autobahn might be a bit of a problem on this. But in all other cases I would strongly recommend this as a starter bike.

p.s. dont pay too much attention to people with few posts who tell you exactly what you want to hear. On this forum the majority really does rule.
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fshane, btw, has only been riding for a few days, has no idea what he's talking about, and is trying to justify his own erroneous purchase of a 500 as a first bike.by giving poor advice to ther new riders.

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My "erroneous purchase"? Do you realize there are thousands of people who start with a bigger bike than what i bought? I see nothing wrong with my purchase or anyone's purchase of a 500 as their first bike. It's not like i went out and bought a 1300. I wasn't gonna buy a 250 just so i could change my mind a year later and want a bigger bike.
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My "erroneous purchase"? Do you realize there are thousands of people who start with a bigger bike than what i bought? I see nothing wrong with my purchase or anyone's purchase of a 500 as their first bike. It's not like i went out and bought a 1300. I wasn't gonna buy a 250 just so i could change my mind a year later and want a bigger bike.
Every year people with that same mentality buy big bikes without any prior riding experience. Fact! The number of noob fatalities on motorcycles outweighs the number of experienced riders. Fact!

To each their own, no one is taking a dig at you for starting out on a bigger bike, but where someone is asking for sensible advice you're not helping by sharing your 5 minutes of experience which may lead to him taking your advice and at best living to regret it!
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