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Hi Vex, Thanks for your suggestion.

I haven't done anything to my bike, and I don't know very much about mechanics.

Is "rear bottom of the tank" somewhere inside the fairing? If possible, would you please post a picture about where the plug is located? Very appreciated!
i believe this is the plug... in this picture it's right above the air filter where, normally, your airbox sits.



some better pictures of the plug here...
How to Remove the Gas Tank

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Hi Vex, Thanks for your suggestion.

I haven't done anything to my bike, and I don't know very much about mechanics.

Is "rear bottom of the tank" somewhere inside the fairing? If possible, would you please post a picture about where the plug is located? Very appreciated!
You can locate it pretty easily. If you remove that black panel underneath the seat on the right side (when viewing from the rear of the bike) you can see a bit underneath the fuel tank. Here's a picture that FilteredReality put up of the fuel sender:

Those two black rubber circles in the picture are the very back of the fuel tank (for reference) and that little black box with the wire harness coming out of it is the fuel sender. If you can locate that from the side of the bike (with the side panel off) follow the black wiring harness. It should go about 6" where it can be unplugged. If the wiring harness goes and then doesn't connect to anything that'd be your problem. If you see the harness plugged in to where it continues on to the front of the motorcycle then that eliminates that as the culprit

Edit: kkim you sneaky devil. So I guess now he should know where to look

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better more people helping than none.

i don't think it's the connection, though, as did say he is getting some sort of reading. if it weren't plugged in, he would be getting nothing at all on his gauge.
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better more people helping than none.

i don't think it's the connection, though, as did say he is getting some sort of reading. if it weren't plugged in, he would be getting nothing at all on his gauge.
Dahhh. Nuts I thought he was referring to having the same problem as the OP. The OP wasn't getting a reading. Sorry It just sounds like you (huichook) are simply finding the inaccuracy of the fuel gauges on these bike!

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Finally! Someone else with my same problem. I have an 09 250 and the gas gauge crapped itself the first long weekend I tried taking it out, under 100 miles at the time. Took it into the dealership and they found out the sensor inside the tank was bad. Replaced it and about a week later (a couple hundred miles put on it, a little over 200) and the gauge was broke again. Took it back in and it was the sensor again. They called Kawasaki. Got back to me and I was told that it's the gas that's ruining the sensors. I'm getting my 3rd one installed this weekend. Apparently its causing corrosion to build up on the sensor which destroys it. When they pulled everything off and let me look in the tank I could see the gunk hanging out at the bottom of the tank, a light brown color. Its the ethanol in the gas. With the emission laws forcing the gas stations to blend this crap into the fuel, they don't measure how much or how little since there is no set standard. I don't go to middle of nowhere gas stations either, I stick with highly traveled ones which usually watch their mixtures (or so I was told).

They shipped off my original sensor to Kawasaki so their engineers could take a look at it. Kawasaki said my bike was the very first case they have ever heard of this happening..
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Dahhh. Nuts I thought he was referring to having the same problem as the OP. The OP wasn't getting a reading. Sorry It just sounds like you (huichook) are simply finding the inaccuracy of the fuel gauges on these bike!

This was what happened...
one day when i was riding, it was still about 1/3 filled, and it showed as empty, 2 mins later it goes back to 1/3. Another 2 mins later, it goes back to empty, then back to 1/3, and so on.

So I went to gas station to pump it up before it 'really' run out of gas, and found there was actually quite a lot of fuel inside the tank.

The pump only allows me to fill up 1 gallon, but the fuel gauge shows it has only about a little bit more than 1/2 tank.
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Finally! Someone else with my same problem. I have an 09 250 and the gas gauge crapped itself the first long weekend I tried taking it out, under 100 miles at the time. Took it into the dealership and they found out the sensor inside the tank was bad. Replaced it and about a week later (a couple hundred miles put on it, a little over 200) and the gauge was broke again. Took it back in and it was the sensor again. They called Kawasaki. Got back to me and I was told that it's the gas that's ruining the sensors. I'm getting my 3rd one installed this weekend. Apparently its causing corrosion to build up on the sensor which destroys it. When they pulled everything off and let me look in the tank I could see the gunk hanging out at the bottom of the tank, a light brown color. Its the ethanol in the gas. With the emission laws forcing the gas stations to blend this crap into the fuel, they don't measure how much or how little since there is no set standard. I don't go to middle of nowhere gas stations either, I stick with highly traveled ones which usually watch their mixtures (or so I was told).

They shipped off my original sensor to Kawasaki so their engineers could take a look at it. Kawasaki said my bike was the very first case they have ever heard of this happening..

hi...GreezMunky...sorry to hear about yr case...and here is what i got...

it happened in my first 50 miles, which was still the same tank of gas the dealer put in for me...and I only put the highest grade(usually 91) available in the gas station since then
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Yep, that sounds exactly like what mine did. I was still on the first tank of gas the dealer gave me when the gauge dropped to E and hasn't moved. And every tank after that I've put the highest octane in as well.. If you ever head up to your dealership to get the gauge looked at, I'm assuming its still covered under factory warrenty, when they check it out see what they say..
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Do you used your trip meter at all to try to determine how much gas you have? I reset my trip meter every time I fill up and I go roughly 200 miles between fill up. I just used my gas gauges as reference only and I don't depend on it.

At the ~200 mile mark, my gas gauge is on the "E" and the most gas I ever put in my tank was 3.9 gallons while I was still sitting on the bike.
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Do you used your trip meter at all to try to determine how much gas you have? I reset my trip meter every time I fill up and I go roughly 200 miles between fill up. I just used my gas gauges as reference only and I don't depend on it.

At the ~200 mile mark, my gas gauge is on the "E" and the most gas I ever put in my tank was 3.9 gallons while I was still sitting on the bike.
That's all I've been able to use since the gauge is broken. I usually go to 180 miles and then fill back up. Dealership guys said the bike should get over 200 miles to the tank but I fill up a little earlier just to be safe. Funny thing happened to me yesterday though. I was at 140 miles on the meter so a good 60 miles before needing to fill up, and about 3 blocks from home my bike shuts itself off. After I push it home (still in uniform) I pop open the tank and no gas. Still not sure how that happened. Filled it up completely and I only got 140 miles out of the tank. Let's just say I was not too happy. This is the first vehicle I've had that I've ran completely out of gas. My own stupid fault though. Should have looked in the tank and not relied solely on the trip meter.
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