Hey I figured someone would want to know if it was worth the money and I threw in the steps to do it not like it was complicated s***. Someone who is not used to tinkering with things might want to know how easy it is to do, so yes silly thread in a way but still informative to some so thanks vex that's exactly what I was thinking.
Anyways @jflexe99 its not an extremely large difference but it helps deflect more wind over you. So fully up I don't feel to much wind hitting my jacket and more of the wind goes to the helmet, I also used to have bugs that would be on my jacket after every ride now I seldom have any. It also helps with wind turbulence at high speeds so I can relax my head more even when fully upright
And sorry I didn't say "wellnuts" I don't take the time to look up every friggin type of bolt I see

I just get to work