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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 11-28-2012, 04:20 PM Thread Starter
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First bike advice?

So Im looking to get my first bike. I have rode dirtbikes and Atv's all my life also I have rode a few sportbikes like my cousins Ninja 250r and my uncles Ninja 650r. Im 5'9 and 180 and it since its my first bike I think I want to get a Ninja 250r but Im not sure what year i should get. I like the 08+ but aslo am still open to other ideas. Maybe a Ninja 650r but an older one.
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Also any place that have good prices on helmets and riding gear and since its winter Im hoping to find a better deal on a bike but not in a rush to get one.
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winter is a pretty decent time to pick up a bike. most people that are selling them, dont want to prep them for storage so you can get some good deals.

ive always suggested that new riders should ride about 8k-12k miles on a 250 before jumping onto a bigger bike. But it all depends on your skill level. You say youve ridden dirtbikes all your life so you have some experience under your belt (even though dirtbikes and sportbikes are very different).

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If you are set on getting a 250 go for it. The 300s are looking pretty nice but my advice would be to get a used 250 in case of newbie drops and such. It's all up to you to decide whether you have enough experience and control with your offroad experience to get something bigger. 250s are fun, so you shouldnt get bored unless you just want ball busting power and never want to learn to take corners

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Had a 09 250 and recently just got a 650. Sometimes still miss the little Ninja, just not waiting for it to warm up. 250 was soooo much fun

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Don't get a 300, it's not good to get a new bike as your first bike. If you drop it, lose interest, or nearly anything goes wrong, you spent way too much. It's not necessary. An older model year bike will be cheaper outright, cheaper insurance, etc. Also, you'd have to completely try to destroy a bike (especially a Ninja 250) for it to have major issues, so buying used is hardly a gamble.

An 08+ Ninja 250 are not far off in price from 07's and below, and look much better. Great bike. I personally recommend it, having put 10k miles on mine. You can probably pick one up now for $2500 or less. Start on that, ride it until you start to hate it, then upgrade to a 500, 650 or 600. Wear gear for sure. Good places to buy would be eBay (be careful who you purchase from), Motorcycle Superstore, Cyclegear and Sportbike Track Gear for some. Look for closeout and clearance gear. It doesn't necessarily mean the gear is crap, it just means its not the newest style, but you don't need expensive and fancy gear.

Oh yeah, take MSF. Even if you have dirtbike, ATV experience or what not, the MSF will surely help. Also, there's no reason not to take it, as it counts as a license when brought to the DMV with a completion card, at least in most states.
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Go with an 08+ Ninja 250R. There's no real set time frame on when you should upgrade, but give it 10,000 miles or so to figure out what you're doing on the street.

You already know how to operate a motorcycle. Now you need to learn how to handle it on the street and at speed (this is where counter steering comes into play; there isn't too much of that on dirt bikes). Those 10,000 miles on a 250R will keep things simple when you're learning to deal with cagers and different road conditions. On something bigger, things will happen quickly and the bike can get ahead of you.

With the winter, less people are buying so those who are trying to sell it will price it lower. Dealers tend to work with you more as well.

+1 on the MSF. You may know how to operate the bike, but things are different on the street. They'll teach you collision avoidance, swerving, and threshold braking/emergency stops. You get an insurance discount and it more than likely waives your state's road test requirement.

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Thanks a bunch for the replys. Im going to take MSF for sure. The 300s sound pretty cool but i dont want a new bike cuz of the price and if I do drop it I would rather it be a used bike not new. Also Im pretty set on the 250r but what are some other good bike ideas if was to get a bigger bike like a 600 just incase I find a good deal on one or just for when I upgrade?
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Thanks a bunch for the replys. Im going to take MSF for sure. The 300s sound pretty cool but i dont want a new bike cuz of the price and if I do drop it I would rather it be a used bike not new. Also Im pretty set on the 250r but what are some other good bike ideas if was to get a bigger bike like a 600 just incase I find a good deal on one or just for when I upgrade?
Not many people on here will recommend a new rider getting a supersport.

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Generally the cycle goes like this. You have just gotten into bikes and you get a 250 because its the responsible thing. However you really want a 600. So you put maybe a couple thousand miles on the 250 and get way over confident. You have the itch for speed. Now here is the cross road.

Either you stick with the 250 through the way over confident phase and come to terms with how much you still have to learn and put a lot of miles of learning on the 250 and really enjoy then maybe think about a bigger bike.

Or you jump to a bigger bike way too soon with the false confident everyone has after a couple thousand miles and hopefully just scare yourself instead of injuring yourself.

Is this true for everyone? No, but most people I know it is.

Get a 08+ 250 you wont be afraid to drop. Ride the hell out of it for a couple years. Have fun and then maybe think about a 600.

Just think of like this a 600 is way faster than almost anything most people will ever drive. You don't put someone with a learners permit in a Ferrari and expect it to get a little damaged.

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Somebody once told me that a fender bender in a car is broken leg on a bike. On a supersort it's likely to be worse.

That apart, you'll learn a lot more about reading roads and traffic and how to get into the right place at the right time and in the right gear on a bike with less power.

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