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Old 02-17-2011, 08:50 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Ninja 500R vs. 250R - which one more cold blooded?

im looking at 2008 - 2010 for the 250r and then 2001-2008 for 500r. both used. I know 500r would be little more money so I would need to get one slightly older. I dont like stalls and choke play as much so I need to minimize the hassle. important feature for me. Which of those two bad boys is more cold blooded? would it be correct to say the 250 is the most sensitive carbed kawi out of all the other carbed kawis?
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Old 02-18-2011, 10:35 PM   #2 (permalink)
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im looking at 2008 - 2010 for the 250r and then 2001-2008 for 500r. both used. I know 500r would be little more money so I would need to get one slightly older. I dont like stalls and choke play as much so I need to minimize the hassle. important feature for me. Which of those two bad boys is more cold blooded? would it be correct to say the 250 is the most sensitive carbed kawi out of all the other carbed kawis?
In my opinion I'd say the 500. I personally have a 500 so thats why i say that. Soooo hard to start up on a really cold day, but i dont really know for sure. rides beautifully though =)
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I'd say their equally cold blooded. The 250's are pretty crappy (from the factory).

No matter though. It's pretty easy to richen the idle mixture by popping out the idle fuel mixture caps and adjusting your idle mixture screws out a half turn or so. I know on my 250 it usually fires right up (with the choke on) down to single digit temperatures. From the factory that bastard needed choke IN THE SUMMER TIME.

So from a cold starting stand-point they're not going to be any different and with a little fiddling can be pretty easy to start on cold mornings.
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Old 03-05-2011, 03:32 PM   #4 (permalink)
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lol The question is more: How cold blooded are you? I've got a 2008 500R, 1. owner, 15600 miles and counting, and we get nervous when the temperature climbs just over 50F! I crossed a patch of snow when I went out 2 weeks ago. My bike is also spoiled with frequently added carburetor cleaner and fuel treatment, in addition it's always hooked up to a charger when parked..
In the end it mostly depends on your 'fit' on the bike, and where you intend to ride it. On the track both may be just fine, but in the mountains, the 500 will leave the baby behind it in the dust....never mind all the gear shifting.....
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I think either will be as cold blooded as the other but that said my 03 500 has 26000 miles on it and I dont stop riding the poor thing til theres snow on the road sometimes even then. I have been down twice when I hit some ice patches and destroyed the fairing when I hit a deer. With all that on a 30F day with the choke on she will not hesitate to start even knowing how much abuse it may be in for
My 05 636 does not start as well, just keep what ever bike you get in good maintenance and it shouldnt be a problem

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It's pretty easy to richen the idle mixture by popping out the idle fuel mixture caps and adjusting your idle mixture screws out a half turn or so. I know on my 250 it usually fires right up (with the choke on) down to single digit temperatures
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might i ask how to do that? its been about 40 where i am and i have to try to start it at least 20 times before it idles without dying.
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might i ask how to do that? its been about 40 where i am and i have to try to start it at least 20 times before it idles without dying.
My son's Ninja 250 id the coldest-natured bike I have EVER seen, (but it does always start). We just have to stand there and nurse it for nearly ten minutes whenever it's below 60 degrees F. (60 seems to be the magic #)
If I just choked it and left the choke initially wide open like many people have advised, it would run. (I personally cannot stand to hear a cold engine idling at 4 grand!)
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might i ask how to do that? its been about 40 where i am and i have to try to start it at least 20 times before it idles without dying.
20 times is too much at any temp. Check/clean/replace your fuel filter, check your tank for debris that could have gotten in by filling up from a dirty container. Check the setting of the fuel shut-off valve (no, not kidding...). Check/clean replace spark plugs, clean carburetor, add fuel additives like carburetor cleaner and fuel stabilizer. Try to keep your tank as full as possible when parked to minimize moisture built-up. Consider a battery tender and hook it up, whenever the bike is parked for a few days. Better yet: keep riding, don't park it....If that doesn't help, then start screwing.....

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i'll have to look in to all of that. don't have classes tomorrow and the weather is supposed to be nice so i wanna get it running good and go riding
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I thought Kawasaki's were reliable
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