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Old 07-21-2012, 11:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Hardwire for gps charger (3 lighter inputs + USB placed in tank bag)

Can someone share some experience on Ninja 650 possibly working with this charging kit?

Bikemaster 12V/15A POWER ADAPTER CENTER from DICK'S HONDA

Features 3 US cigarette lighter outlets and a USB port
Works with any tank bag
Designed to stay in the bag when the bag is removed
Comes with a quick disconnect pig tail which also fits all standard US battery charger hard wire kits
Comes complete with Hard Wire Charger Kit
Best of all, you can run a GPS, MP3, iPhone, CB or anything else for that matter
Features an L.E.D. light so you know you are getting power
This Power Center is a must for any rider, essential if you have the Firstgear GPS Bag


I see there is a fuse attached to the hard-wire kit but not sure what kind... anyhow, can someone tell me if this would work on our ninja 650? Tnx!

PS forgot to mention what I am trying to do... I have a GPS nuvi 1390 and this would be the primary reason for me to install hard-wire charging cig. lighter... now, I came across this one and it would be great if I can charge GPS via cig. lighter input plus USB for my phone... even better it resides in my tank bag which has ton of space for it - only thing that makes me wonder is does this work as good as it sounds on the paper... kind of plug n play thing... Any suggestions, help, etc? Tnx again!

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it should work,just tap into the parking light wire so when ignition is turned off everything turns off
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it should work,just tap into the parking light wire so when ignition is turned off everything turns off
Thank you - being a noob, can you help in more details how do I "tap into brake light" so it turns-off when I shut the engine off?
I take it there is the way of connecting it but I never dealt with battery connecting other than car battery replacement

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just tap into the + wire that connects to one the front parking light bulb , use volt meter to find which one.
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The correct way of doing it would be to add a relay so you don't overload any of the motorcycle's circuits.

Buy a 12 Volt automotive relay at an auto parts store, most are rated for around 20 amps. Then connect it this way:

Terminal 85: Ground
Terminal 86: Triggering circuit, any motorcycle circuit that is only powered when the engine is running
Terminal 87: Power from fuse connected to the positive post of the battery
Terminal 30: Power to your socket accessory.

You will also need to ground the sockets.

This is the correct way of connecting your 12V sockets.




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This is really a car accessory that's been modded to make for an easy connection to a bike. The easy connection is its downfall. It can push out a lot of amps, so it really needs to be wired through a relay. Use an ignition switched source - tail light or parking light - to call the relay and wire the adpator through a line fuse. Again, for a bike I'd wire a single auxillary socket and plug the car version of this in to it if you ever need the multiple outlets. For convenience, use a 2 pin marine connector on the bike wired through the relay as described by ZX6RNewbie, and a car socket for in-dash fitting (very cheap) will have a pair wires that you can fit to the male part of the connector so you can just plug it in when you use the tank bag and auxillary socket. Be carefull of heat build up around this type of socket if it's inside a tank bag. On top of the tank is not somewhere I'd be comfortable with a fire starting.

I'll repeat. Don't wire an auxillary socket direct to the ignition switched source. These are built for about 5W, or less than 1A current. This socket can pass 15A. That will take out the wiring. Wiring it through the pigtails of a battery tender is also pushing it, as these only normally carry a few amps, but more important is that using battery tender pigtails you can accidentally leave stuff connected when you're off the bike, flattening the battery.

For USB only there's a nice little USB socket that someone posted in another thread. I fitted one to the Street Triple and it's great for charging phones, but my Navman Sat Nav sees it as a USB connection rather than a charger and won't work with it.

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yeah you should either wire in a relay or just install directly onto the battery. im personally running a bettery tender for my batteries. so since i already have the battery tender pigtail attached to the bike, i just made a cig. lighter output. so now when i need it i simply just attach it to the battery tender cable. i dont always use it and im able to move it from bike to bike. also to charge my phone i have the usb cig. lighter adapter. and it works with my iphone 4s
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Charger arrived and I noticed fuse that came with is 10amps n packing states the charger is 12V/10A. I will not be adding a relay now since we go on a trip soon but will do after the road trip... now, is 10amp fuse enough for gps n cell charging? Can I simply replace it with 15 or 20amp fuse or no?

Rob-what kind of circuits would be overwhelmed by using this charger hooked up directly to the battery?

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Charger arrived and I noticed fuse that came with is 10amps n packing states the charger is 12V/10A. I will not be adding a relay now since we go on a trip soon but will do after the road trip... now, is 10amp fuse enough for gps n cell charging? Can I simply replace it with 15 or 20amp fuse or no?

Rob-what kind of circuits would be overwhelmed by using this charger hooked up directly to the battery?

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should work and btw I have the tapping of the parking brake light for years and works for me, worst case scenario, a burnt fuse
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Charger arrived and I noticed fuse that came with is 10amps n packing states the charger is 12V/10A. I will not be adding a relay now since we go on a trip soon but will do after the road trip... now, is 10amp fuse enough for gps n cell charging? Can I simply replace it with 15 or 20amp fuse or no?

Rob-what kind of circuits would be overwhelmed by using this charger hooked up directly to the battery?

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you should be fine with the 10 amp fuse. upgrading the fuse can be bad because sometimes the wires are not able to handle the extra load. so instead of having a burnt fuse, you can get burnt wiring, which is dangerous.

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should work and btw I have the tapping of the parking brake light for years and works for me, worst case scenario, a burnt fuse
i was doing something similar. on my ninja 650r i was running a gps power cable from the tail light. it did work but the problem i had was, when i held the brake, the charger stopped working.
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