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Old 10-24-2012, 11:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey guys, so I've got a 2009 650R with only about 9k miles on it. However I go to school at UCSB and my house is right next to the beach. I've been fighting a never-ending battle with the rust that's been creeping up all over my bike. I'll take the time to use CLR to (with only partial success) scrub off some of the rust but it keeps coming back stronger each time. Is there anything I can do to diminish these effects? Would covering it do anything to alleviate this problem, or would the sea air creep in from underneath?

What kind of long-term damage should I be aware of in this kind of circumstance? When I graduate and move away in a year, will it be possible to restore all my parts and get them rust-free? Or will I be looking at some permanent damage?

MOST IMPORTANTLY: A white powder (I assume sea salt) has been accumulating at the key entry for my gas tank, BENEATH the cover flap. I haven't been paying it too much attention, but today I was at the gas station and found that my key is able to enter into the slot only with some difficulty. I'm unable, even with force, to get my key to turn, and I partially damaged my key trying to do so. I tried again with my brand new spare key and had the same problem. WHAT DO I DO? Is there any way to fix this? I'm at fuel warning and I'm unable to open my gas tank.

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Old 10-25-2012, 12:00 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Happened to my friends bike. Had to put some liquid wrench into the key slot and just start wiggling the key back and worth. It took some time but eventually got it open. Then put some injector cleaner in and fresh gas. I don't know if anyone has had any luck with keyless gas caps or not.

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Old 10-25-2012, 12:02 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Regarding the lock: seems the white residue is not salt and that this is a fairly common issue. I've ordered some graphite lube and hope to solve this problem with that. Any advice on how to deal with sea air and rust is still much appreciated though
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What's rusting? Could clear nail polish work for the heads of bolts and stuff? Chain? Just keep it clean and oiled.

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Honestly, I'm surprised that ANYTHING is rusting. I thought it would all be weather-proof. And for a year back home (foggy city, but not salty) it was fine, even outside and uncovered. I just had to keep my chain in shape and nothing else was rusting. Now I'm seeing rust all over, and it seems to be coming back faster and thicker every time I deal with it.


Ever time I scrub this off with CLR and a rag, or now a copper brush (rag isn't cutting it anymore) it comes back thicker, presumably because the paint is being worn down and exposing the metal.


You can't really see it in the pictures, but I'm constantly getting rust in this hard-to-reach place


I'm getting some really bad rusting here in this area beneath the front cowling. It's almost impossible for me to reach here without removing the entire cowling too.


A few nuts and bolts are rusting as well, but that's not too much of an eye sore and I can deal with that. Regularly cleaning and lubing the chain has kept that problem in check as well. What would clear nail polish do though? Remove rest or coat things and keep the rust from reaching them?

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It would just keep air away from the metal. I don't live on the coast though so I don't know the tricks.

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Wow, I know your problem. I live 15 miles inland and have the same issues just not quite as bad. The best I can tell you is to clean your bike. You might have to scrub it every day. You may want to invest in a buffing wheel, like a stationary wheel. You can use that and it will take the rust right off of any surface without actually harming it like a wire brush it'll only make the part shiny, then the key is to polish everything every time you wash it should be able to pick one up at a normal hardware store. Some of the hard to reach bolts the best thing you can do is paint them. They make a chemical you can put on rust that will turn it into black primer that you can paint right over and just throw some black rustoleum on them it's not like you can see them anyways. But yes a cover will help there will be a small amount that gets under it but at least it wont constantly be landing on it.
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Yeah, but the parts of the bike that are particularly bad I wouldn't want to paint over. The adjuster in the first picture would look weird if it was painted a matte black. It's supposed to be metallic. And that's true for pretty much all of the parts I'm having trouble with excep the odd nut or bolt that I don't mind. I might consider painting those with black rustoleum though. I had to do that with my kickstand right when I bought the bike because it was missing paint right when i got it from the dealership.

I'll definitely look into the buffer though. If nothing else, I won't have to look at that HIDEOUS, rusted-over adjuster every time I mount my bike.
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Hey guys, so I've got a 2009 650R with only about 9k miles on it. However I go to school at UCSB and my house is right next to the beach. I've been fighting a never-ending battle with the rust that's been creeping up all over my bike. I'll take the time to use CLR to (with only partial success) scrub off some of the rust but it keeps coming back stronger each time. Is there anything I can do to diminish these effects? Would covering it do anything to alleviate this problem, or would the sea air creep in from underneath?

What kind of long-term damage should I be aware of in this kind of circumstance? When I graduate and move away in a year, will it be possible to restore all my parts and get them rust-free? Or will I be looking at some permanent damage?

MOST IMPORTANTLY: A white powder (I assume sea salt) has been accumulating at the key entry for my gas tank, BENEATH the cover flap. I haven't been paying it too much attention, but today I was at the gas station and found that my key is able to enter into the slot only with some difficulty. I'm unable, even with force, to get my key to turn, and I partially damaged my key trying to do so. I tried again with my brand new spare key and had the same problem. WHAT DO I DO? Is there any way to fix this? I'm at fuel warning and I'm unable to open my gas tank.
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Honestly, I'm surprised that ANYTHING is rusting. I thought it would all be weather-proof. And for a year back home (foggy city, but not salty) it was fine, even outside and uncovered. I just had to keep my chain in shape and nothing else was rusting. Now I'm seeing rust all over, and it seems to be coming back faster and thicker every time I deal with it.


Ever time I scrub this off with CLR and a rag, or now a copper brush (rag isn't cutting it anymore) it comes back thicker, presumably because the paint is being worn down and exposing the metal.


Listen man, plain and simple, you're just gonna have to deal with it. I also live by the beach, Miami Beach to be exact when I'm not in school.

My rotors and triples have the most rust, and it's only worse if you don't cover the bike.

The white residue in the gas cap - I'm gonna go ahead and assume it's the aluminum oxidizing. I almost got stuck at a gas station in the middle of the night when it happened to me, though I didn't need to buy any special lube. I just used some WD-40, wiggled the key a bit, and let the oil soak in for a few minutes.

Also, you see the rust coming back even stronger every time because that copper brush only exposes more bare metal after you "clean" all the rust off. I would recommend a nylon brush, or stiff tooth brush instead.
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Suck it up. You chose to live on the beach now you have to deal with the consequences.

It's too late to do anything about it now short of replacing the parts that are rusted and properly protecting them in the future.

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