er6n mod ideas - KawiForums - Kawasaki Motorcycle Forums
 1Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 29 (permalink) Old 09-07-2016, 12:33 PM Thread Starter
Jr. Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 15
 
Garage
er6n mod ideas

Hello all

First timer of the forum and a owner of a 2015 er6n. I'm posting on the forum about mods I could / should do on the er6n.
I'm thinking of the following

Pipe werx exhaust (English exhaust company) using a 2011 header pipe / down pipe
PAIR VALVE plug
De-Snorkel
maybe a ECU re-tune as I find the throttle shappy at partial opening i.e shappy coming out of a bend
K&N air filter if doing a ECU re-tune
Suspension upgrade
I was also thinking about lengthening the gears especially 1st by going down one to two teeth on the back sprocket from 46 to 45 or 44 but unsure.

So yeah, their are the mods I'm thinking about. What do you guys think I could or should do.
SySi is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 29 (permalink) Old 09-07-2016, 04:42 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: planet earth
Posts: 240
 
A smaller back sprocket will make it a little worse for taking off from a stop and seem like it has a little less power up to legal speeds, but with lower rpm for less vibration and better gas mileage in top gear.

The other mods will give you a little more power and more noise.

A better suspension and a better seat is where most start, especially for a budget 650 like this.

Some also relocate the footpegs and change the hand grip locations, for either more comfort or for racing. Also consider adding an aftermarket windshield for more comfort on longer trips.

I am a believer in adding a K & N brand oiled foam prefilter while adding an oiled cotton K & N air filter- your engine will stay cleaner inside and this oiled foam is easier to clean and reoil more often, while cleaning the oiled cotton less often since most of the dirt will get trapped at the outer foam.
ZZR600-2008 is offline  
post #3 of 29 (permalink) Old 09-08-2016, 05:09 AM Thread Starter
Jr. Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 15
 
Garage
Yeah, it's a budget bike but it's pretty decent for the money, just a few little niggles but suppose you can't please everyone

So all I should do for a "budget" bike is new exhaust and a suspension upgrade and stop after that, I am also thinking about fitting braided brake lines for better braking feel. would adding an after market air filter make any different to the bike if i don't get the ecu re-tune as well.
as for sprocket change the er6n is 15/46 or 3.07 to 1 if I go down one tooth on the back so 15/45 or 3.00 to 1 I've lost .07 per rotation but hopefully gained slightly longer gearing with out noticeable different in acceleration / torque or is the different so small there is no point doing it and just leave it stock gearing.
What can I do about the shappy / chappy throttle and surging?, is that ecu / fueling fault which need ecu tuned /power commander or mechanical and fixable and able to do you self.
Thank you.
SySi is offline  
 
post #4 of 29 (permalink) Old 09-08-2016, 11:08 AM
Intermediate Member
 
GR rider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Thessaloniki, Greece
Posts: 1,518
           
Hello and welcome

I did the pair valve mode with a sensor eliminator kit and I do recommend it:

ER-6N Pair valve and de-snorkulation, the easy way!

Suspension upgrade also highly recommended, I fitted progressive front fork springs and a YSS aftermarket shock and I am very satisfied both on track and road:

YSS shock absorber impressions

More reviews here:

Aftermarket suspension parts reference thread

I've also fitted braided brake lines but wasn't overly impressed as I saw greater improvement after the suspension and brake pad changes:

Brake upgrade discussion
GR rider is offline  
post #5 of 29 (permalink) Old 09-09-2016, 07:57 AM Thread Starter
Jr. Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 15
 
Garage
I don't like the idea of running the bike without the o2 sensor, won't I need a power commander or ecu flash for that as well?.
I will still try the pair valve and de-snorkel and see how that goes, and if it reduces popping in my after market exhaust. I don't mind a few pops here and there but if it does it all the time than I will do the pair valve mod. I just have to see really how it works out.

As for the suspension upgrade I've found a place only 25-30mins away from me who specialise in motorcycle suspension so might be worth a phone call or pop in and see what they recommend. I like the idea of emulators but I don't know what's more important, new springs and different oil all round or and an emulator and different oil in the front and a new spring on the rear, what would you say?. I'm only a light arse but I find the er6n's suspension harsh at speed but seems to want to dive in/down when going around a bend at a pace. So I thought an emulator might be of use.

For brake lines I've used Wezmoto before so I will use again, and they don't cost much.

Last edited by SySi; 09-09-2016 at 07:59 AM.
SySi is offline  
post #6 of 29 (permalink) Old 09-09-2016, 10:05 AM
Intermediate Member
 
BlackDog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Houston, Texas, United States.
Posts: 3,246
           
If your serious about suspension Look at RACETECH they have a great product.

If you want to learn more about how a suspension works Read (((THIS)))
BlackDog is offline  
post #7 of 29 (permalink) Old 09-09-2016, 11:02 AM
Intermediate Member
 
GR rider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Thessaloniki, Greece
Posts: 1,518
           
Quote:
Originally Posted by SySi View Post
I will still try the pair valve and de-snorkel and see how that goes, and if it reduces popping in my after market exhaust. I don't mind a few pops here and there but if it does it all the time than I will do the pair valve mod. I just have to see really how it works out.

As for the suspension upgrade I've found a place only 25-30mins away from me who specialise in motorcycle suspension so might be worth a phone call or pop in and see what they recommend. I like the idea of emulators but I don't know what's more important, new springs and different oil all round or and an emulator and different oil in the front and a new spring on the rear, what would you say?. I'm only a light arse but I find the er6n's suspension harsh at speed but seems to want to dive in/down when going around a bend at a pace. So I thought an emulator might be of use.
I like popping too but it is bad for the exhaust valve and that is why I did the pair valve mod. I still get a very pleasant rumble when closing the throttle and the occasional popping sounds less metallic and intense.

My YSS rear shock comes with a progressive spring and I can't tell you how much more comfortable the bike became and how much better over bumps in the middle of a turn. I was thinking of fitting only a HyperPro shock spring too, but trust me, a full bike specific rear shock and spring is money extremely well spent!

The fork springs was a night and day change too, but my model year bike had a different, ultra soft fork.
GR rider is offline  
post #8 of 29 (permalink) Old 09-09-2016, 01:52 PM Thread Starter
Jr. Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 15
 
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackDog View Post
If your serious about suspension Look at RACETECH they have a great product.
If you want to learn more about how a suspension works Read (((THIS)))
Yeah, I found a place only in the next town from so about 12miles away who do motorbike suspension who do Racetech stuff aswell
might be worth a trip down or a phone call to see what they recommend.

Quote:
Originally Posted by GR rider View Post
I was thinking of fitting only a HyperPro shock spring too
I've been thinking about Hyper Pro aswell, but as I've said before It might be best if I pop down to a specialist for any recommendations.

Last edited by SySi; 09-09-2016 at 02:17 PM.
SySi is offline  
post #9 of 29 (permalink) Old 09-09-2016, 01:58 PM
Intermediate Member
 
GR rider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Thessaloniki, Greece
Posts: 1,518
           
Quote:
Originally Posted by SySi View Post
I've been thinking about Hyper Pro aswell, but as I've said before It might be best if I pop down to a specialist for any recommendations.
Of course, it's up to you, we are only throwing ideas on the table
GR rider is offline  
post #10 of 29 (permalink) Old 09-09-2016, 02:24 PM Thread Starter
Jr. Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 15
 
Garage
Yeah I know, but since I don't know about suspension, spring rating and all that I don't feel confident participating it, plus I haven't got anywhere to take the suspension apart. I just want the bike feel planted on the road which will improve rider confidence.
SySi is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the KawiForums - Kawasaki Motorcycle Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome