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Old 11-05-2012, 09:24 PM   #8841 (permalink)
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Let's just hope Ben Spies will try his luck again with the final round. Almost won the Valencia race last year, didn't he?
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:09 PM   #8842 (permalink)
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Let's just hope Ben Spies will try his luck again with the final round. Almost won the Valencia race last year, didn't he?
I seriously doubt Spies will be winning Valencia considering he won't even be there. He had surgery and will not be riding at the final round at Valencia or the post season test there. Katsuyuki Nakasuga will be riding his bike.

Maybe some police death ray killed his bike to make him crash this time?
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I seriously doubt Spies will be winning Valencia considering he won't even be there. He had surgery and will not be riding at the final round at Valencia or the post season test there. Katsuyuki Nakasuga will be riding his bike.

Maybe some police death ray killed his bike to make him crash this time?
Shit, didn't know Ben was out.



Haha yeah the police probably did it.
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If the test dummy bins it, you know that shit was rigged all year lol


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Even if he doesn't bin it that proves nothing. They have had plenty of time to fix what they sabotaged on the bike until this point.
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I'd wager that Spies was more pissed off about missing the critical first test on the Ducati more than missing PI and Valencia races. Out of anyone on a ducati I think Dovi is probably the only one who may be able to adapt his style to it. He had to change his style from Honda to Yamaha for this year and look what he was able to do. Still not saying he'll win races but I think time will show him up to speed of Rossi's level very fast.
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So reading the article about Lorenzo in the current Sport Rider and Lorenzo thinks rider aids are NECESSARY. Kenny Roberts says "bullshit"(that's literally what he said, and Lorenzo invited him to ride his 250hp M1 so that he would change his mind. I think if King Kenny can handle a 500 2 stroke on fucking terrible tires by today's standards he can handle your M1, George.
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So reading the article about Lorenzo in the current Sport Rider and Lorenzo thinks rider aids are NECESSARY. Kenny Roberts says "bullshit"(that's literally what he said, and Lorenzo invited him to ride his 250hp M1 so that he would change his mind. I think if King Kenny can handle a 500 2 stroke on fucking terrible tires by today's standards he can handle your M1, George.
I'll never forget seeing KR wheelie IN THE CORKSCREW'S CREST on the 500 2 smoke in 2011 as part of 50th anniversary celebration stuff. They even had an M1 too which lawson and KR took turns riding, they each said it was a toy compared to the 500. Yeah I think JL needs to check his facts....
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I'd wager that Spies was more pissed off about missing the critical first test on the Ducati more than missing PI and Valencia races. Out of anyone on a ducati I think Dovi is probably the only one who may be able to adapt his style to it. He had to change his style from Honda to Yamaha for this year and look what he was able to do. Still not saying he'll win races but I think time will show him up to speed of Rossi's level very fast.
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I'd wager that Spies was more pissed off about missing the critical first test on the Ducati more than missing PI and Valencia races. Out of anyone on a ducati I think Dovi is probably the only one who may be able to adapt his style to it. He had to change his style from Honda to Yamaha for this year and look what he was able to do. Still not saying he'll win races but I think time will show him up to speed of Rossi's level very fast.
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So reading the article about Lorenzo in the current Sport Rider and Lorenzo thinks rider aids are NECESSARY. Kenny Roberts says "bullshit"(that's literally what he said, and Lorenzo invited him to ride his 250hp M1 so that he would change his mind. I think if King Kenny can handle a 500 2 stroke on fucking terrible tires by today's standards he can handle your M1, George.
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I'll never forget seeing KR wheelie IN THE CORKSCREW'S CREST on the 500 2 smoke in 2011 as part of 50th anniversary celebration stuff. They even had an M1 too which lawson and KR took turns riding, they each said it was a toy compared to the 500. Yeah I think JL needs to check his facts....
They're different bikes that require very different skill sets to ride. Roberts could not ride Jorge's bike anywhere as fast as Jorge can. The opposite is probably also true (in Roberts' prime of course). They're different riders from different eras of different bikes that require different skills. The rider aids don't mean the bikes are easy to ride. Everybody knows that isn't true.

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It wants to go round the corner as fast as it's possible to go, and if you don't hit that spot, exactly, you're out of the line, it doesn't like it. I can imagine going out and being very frustrated on this, because you're not fast enough and you don't know why. Whereas in our day, it was well, you know what, if we steepen the steering head up a little bit, I can get through the Esses better and that's going to make me faster, but this thing, no.
The skillset used to ride Roberts' bike and Jorge's bike are completely different. Back in the day, riders did not have to be remotely as precise every turn, every lap, like they do now.

The number of riders who can ride the bikes that well are extremely few and you already know who they are.

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I like four strokes. I think the 1000 will be a lot better. I tested the V5 Honda round I raced with Little Kenny around Valencia, and it was a much, much nicer, funner bike. I think the 1000s are going to help everybody out. These things are like a big 250 with 300 horsepower. The riders are going to like the 1000 much better, because it's going to have more torque, these things only have RPM.
Wasn't exactly right about that, now was he? The character of the bikes hasn't changed that much to resembled the older 990s he's familiar with.

To him, the bikes are not as 'fun' to ride now, which is debatable. Many current riders comment on how much enjoyment they get out of riding the bike when it's working right on one of their favorite tracks (Stoner, Philip Island for one)

Anyway, it's just the opinion of an older generation compared to the new. I wouldn't say either of them are right. It's an impossible comparison.
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