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Originally Posted by bRiT636
lol Spies and his bad luck..will it be bad luck after another dismal season or will Pramac be sabotaging him as well?
Implying anyone could hope for more than a top 10 finish on that bike in the first place.
And the sabotage bit was a joke of course.
Originally Posted by Kurosaki
They're different bikes that require very different skill sets to ride. Roberts could not ride Jorge's bike anywhere as fast as Jorge can. The opposite is probably also true (in Roberts' prime of course). They're different riders from different eras of different bikes that require different skills. The rider aids don't mean the bikes are easy to ride. Everybody knows that isn't true.
The skillset used to ride Roberts' bike and Jorge's bike are completely different. Back in the day, riders did not have to be remotely as precise every turn, every lap, like they do now.
The number of riders who can ride the bikes that well are extremely few and you already know who they are.
Wasn't exactly right about that, now was he? The character of the bikes hasn't changed that much to resembled the older 990s he's familiar with.
To him, the bikes are not as 'fun' to ride now, which is debatable. Many current riders comment on how much enjoyment they get out of riding the bike when it's working right on one of their favorite tracks (Stoner, Philip Island for one)
Anyway, it's just the opinion of an older generation compared to the new. I wouldn't say either of them are right. It's an impossible comparison.
You're not getting it. The discussion was solely about TRACTION and LAUNCH CONTROL. Nothing more. Ignore the rest of the bike. It's about being able to get the power to the ground. The 4 strokes aren't even in the same league the 2 strokes were. Not to mention KR's tires didn't even have as much grip as a set of Q2s or S20s. It's like a pink Barbie Corvette vs a ZR1.
Jorge said "traction control is NECESSARY." Obviously this is not the case.
Jorge cannot ride a premier class bike without traction control at all. We saw that at Laguna. Shit, a couple years ago he couldn't ride one WITH traction control half the time.
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Last edited by goingtoscotland; 11-06-2012 at 01:44 PM.
Spies has done worse than hayden if you ask me. Even in 07/08 when it was widely know he just didn't gel with the 800 version of his former bike he still got podiums. Since joining Ducati, he's managed a podium in 3rd place each year. If he doesn't get one this weekend, this will be the first season he's had without a podium. yeah his last win was 6yrs ago but he got more podiums as a 'factory' rider than spies did.