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post #1 of 35 (permalink) Old 03-29-2010, 10:53 AM Thread Starter
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Starting from a stop in 2nd gear instead of first. Fesible?

Hey C. Johnson here... I have a guy at work.. an older guy who's been riding for about 30 years. He's telling me that he teaches people to start off in second gear instead of first because first has too much torque and plus its a short gear to begin with.. Now ofcourse he's saying you still need to be able to to start off in first especially in a situation when you might have to move the bike in a hurry.

I told this to another guy at work whose a seasoned rider and he said this works but you have the the bike a lot of gas and after a certain amount of RPM's the powerband will kick in giving the bike a lot of power quickly.. so it'll be easier to just start off in first.

What do you guys think? I've done it with my car a few times and I assume the bike would kinda work the same way?
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You can do it, my cousin did it for years on his GSXR 750 that lost first. Other than having that same problem, i don't see why there would be a reason to start off in 2nd.

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First is there to get the bike moving from a stop.. use it.


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What's the point in doing something stupid like that? All you are doing is using the gas more, and having to slip the clutch more......seems pretty retarded. First is not that bad as long as your not launching it off the rev-limiter.

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Yes, you can start from second. A few of us here have probably stopped at a stop sign and second and not realized it until you were trying to move. Basically, you are doing the same thing as starting from first, balancing clucth and throttle to not stall the engine, but not loop the bike.
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Yes you can do it, but I honestly cant think of any reason to do it on purpose. If this guy is actually teaching people to do that he needs to have his instructors license revoked (assuming thats what he is).

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yes you can do it. i can see why he teaches that if he is teaching someone who is paranoid about 1st gear. i dont suggest it for every day riding, but it can be done.

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on a sportbike, it would serve no purpose. the engines rev up very high, i can run down the freeway in first gear if needed.....

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Hey C. Johnson here... I have a guy at work.. an older guy who's been riding for about 30 years. He's telling me that he teaches people to start off in second gear instead of first because first has too much torque and plus its a short gear to begin with..

What do you guys think? I've done it with my car a few times and I assume the bike would kinda work the same way?
If people wanna start in 2nd, good on them. They can do as they please.

But those reasons sound stupid. Too much torque? Control your right hand... Too short? 1st gear on sport bikes go up to 70+. I don't know anybody would consider that to be short.

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short 1st gear, shit I can do 105 in first on my R1!

Advice like that is tantamount to what I heard a student teacher give to a parent of a violin class I was also teaching in college. "just remove the D string so she doesn't hit it when she rocks over to the A string" :facepalm: (4 stings, e, a, d and g and beginners learn motor control of 'rocking to A string from e) Removing an offending thing is not the way to go about correcting it. Teach yourself good right hand control.


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