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Old 07-27-2011, 10:30 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Here are a few videos...I'm trying to figure out why each one crashed, lets hear what everyone has to say.


Dude lowsides, but why? It looks like everything is fine then all the sudden the tire gives with absolutely no warning. What should he have done to prevent this?


Again, no warning. This guy looked awful in the beginning of the video also. Too rigid.

Another retarded Lowside.


This guy almost lost it in the first few seconds of the vid. I see why/how this guy loses it but it looks like he could have controlled that slide with enough throttle control.

Idk...bored at work. would love to hear what you guys think.
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Old 07-27-2011, 10:53 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Had to add this one, it was funny.
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The first four happen at the same place just after the dark patch in the street.

The First One steered into the corner instead of counter steering. Maybe trying to right himself for an upcoming corner.

The second, seemed very inexperienced and had crashed recently (Hence the mismatched fuel tank)

The third appeared to be hitting his knee puck on the reflectors in the center of the street tried to correct and had an 'oh shit!'.

The 4th seemed to rear brake leaving a 9ft skid behind him causing the highside.

The fifth saw something ahead and target fixated on it.

Notice how this particular patch is where the cameras set up. A lot of 'racers' seem to eat it here.

I've been looking at an overhead and can't pinpoint which corner this is happening. There is one hairpin with a straightaway and a nasty decending radius corner coming out of a left corner. I suspect this may be it, but I can't see the dark patch in the street. Maybe made after Googlemaps did the Sat Picture.

I searched 'Top of the Snake Mulholland highway Malibu' in googlemaps.

I can visualize being mid corner and seeing a sharper corner, also left, dead ahead and slowing down to take it.

This is the danger of pushing your limits on a corner. Another sharper one may be dead-ahead and you're already at your max.

I take a new twisty road of glory at around 70% so I can know any corner traps, gravel, police, etc. Once through, I'm more likely to push myself.

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Decreasing radius turns are a doozy. Never liked them on the track and I hate them even more on the street. I even hate them more than I do blind turns.

I end up riding through them like a granny even if I know it well.
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it's street, so no matter how well you think you know the road, the conditions are always likely to be changing from time to time. I'm at a very dangerous point, the last time I rode out on the streets I found myself wanting to ride like I did on the track. A big no-no. I will probably give up street riding after September's track day all together. It's just not worth it.
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To be honest, I don't understand those low side crashes either. Is it they get too low and the front tire folds in, or what?

Too much pressure on the bars?
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it's street, so no matter how well you think you know the road, the conditions are always likely to be changing from time to time. I'm at a very dangerous point, the last time I rode out on the streets I found myself wanting to ride like I did on the track. A big no-no. I will probably give up street riding after September's track day all together. It's just not worth it.
Yeah same here, I'm trying to make the progression to the track. I like riding on the street and everything but to have fun on an SS means you are pushing it too hard...way too sketchy.
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all i know is the highside one came from to much throttle and then chopping it not using rear brake
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all i know is the highside one came from to much throttle and then chopping it not using rear brake
Yeah, def wasn't rear brake. Looked like a slide that could have been saved but he wasn't too smooth on the throttle.
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