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post #1 of 43 (permalink) Old 09-10-2012, 04:40 PM Thread Starter
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cant get to first gear, all other gears work

So I was at a stop light today and down shifted to first, or so I thought. Once I got the green light I tried to go and realized I was in neutral. I tried down shifting to first like 15I times and to no avail, then I decided to roll the bike while down shifting and got it in gear before the people behind me got pissed. After that I was fine with all my gears except first still doesn't want to get into gear. It gets out of gear just doesn't want to get into gear without a major fight. Any ideas as to what this could be?
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Probably a shift fork.

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It is best to shift down a gear as soon as you have started braking, let the clutch out for a little engine braking, shift down the next gear, let the clutch out again etc, instead of shifting down from 6th to first all at once while the bike is stopped. Also add chain oil to the pivot point at the footpeg for the shift lever.

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Motorcycle Repair: trouble getting into 1st gear, drum groove, motorcycle transmission

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Originally Posted by locknload View Post
Probably a shift fork.

Or the shift drum

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post #5 of 43 (permalink) Old 09-10-2012, 07:30 PM Thread Starter
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How much would this cost at a dealership to repair? My friend is a mechanic and willing to do it but the thing is he is mechanic for cars and never worked on a bike other than the little things we have some on it. Not sure if its better to pay a professional to do it or not.
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Depends on the bike... if it's '06 or older you're going to get raaaaaaaped. Full engine out and dissasemble to get at the transmission.

I would check to see if you can get into first easily while the bike is moving. Most bikes don't like to change gears at a standstill because of the constant mesh transmissions.

Of course I'm generalizing from a single example here, but everyone does that. At least I do.

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Im stuck at a gas station right now, it wont shift from neutral at all. Got stuck at a light and been stuck since. Its a 250 2008 ninja.
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has it been wrecked?

or rather, was the shifter bent when it was dropped?

make sure the shifter can move through its full range of motion, and isnt bound up.


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post #9 of 43 (permalink) Old 09-11-2012, 02:53 AM Thread Starter
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Me and my friend took the bike apart and here is what we discovered.

1) The clutch plates were all perfect and nothing wrong with them after removing them all and inspecting them.

2) The bike has been dropped on both sides by the previous owners and the shifter was bent, however after we removed the side and the plates we could see that the shifter was working properly but nothing was shifting.

3) What we concluded was that the shifter fork must be broken because everything that we saw was working perfectly fine.

I will have to call the dealership tomorrow to ask how much it will run but we will still do some more research before taking it over, he doesn't want to touch the shifter forks since they are behind nearly everything and it would too much for him to do with his other project vehicle.

If anyone else has any ideas as to what it could be or how to easily get to the shifter forks I would greatly appreciate it.
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post #10 of 43 (permalink) Old 09-11-2012, 09:33 AM
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What year is your bike? I saw a thread on here where the guy put his bike on its side, pulled the oil pan and could change his forks. Was a stunt bike so it was something he had done a few times. I believe it was an 05-06 zx6r. I'll see if I can find it.

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