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This topic is based on whether its comparable to say if its more of an advantage to race on motocross then transfer to say a SS and race that. Or would you say it's in the SS riders favor if he transferred into motocross. Yes I know they both have big differences in the type of environment (dirt compared to asphalt), speed, and jumps. But who would have an upper hand. Both of these sports require stamina, strength, and the need for speed. And don't forget balls. BIG ONES. But who would do a better job the first time out in a race without any knowing or experience on that machine they just jumped on. This is an open discussion and would love to hear some feedback on what you guys think. I thought about this a few days ago and figured why not ask Kawiforum members what they thought. Let the open opinions begin!


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They would both suck equally.

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They would both suck equally.
This, equal learning curve.

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Neither would have a fucking clue what they're doing.

You have a helicopter pilot and a fixed-wing pilot. Don't stick a helicopter pilot in a fighter jet and expect him to know what he's doing.

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I'd say the motocross rider has the advantage of traction when going to asphalt from dirt, but whether either one would be good at a sport they have no experience in would be based on luck, talent, and having the gift.
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Neither would have a fucking clue what they're doing.

You have a helicopter pilot and a fixed-wing pilot. Don't stick a helicopter pilot in a fighter jet and expect him to know what he's doing.

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That really isnt fair. I've never known a helicopter pilot who could not fly a fix winged aircraft aka cesna or something. People usually get there single engine first.

Motocross is more physically demanding then super sport racing and more technical, I would even go as far to say that is is probably harder not figuring in the duration differences of the races that is. I dont know any dirt bike riders that haven't ridden on asphalt ever but know quite a few sport bike riders that have never slid around in the dirt.

Assuming the natural ability of the 2 people are the same, if a couple of buddies (one is SS other is dirt) to a couple of track days together (1 of each type) I would wager that the dirt rider would have less problems on the SS then vice versa, but in both cases the person not use to it would be much slower then the other.

If you are talking professional or competitive racing I would think the dirt rider would need a little less physical conditioning but the learning curve to be competitive would be about equal either way.

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That really isnt fair. I've never known a helicopter pilot who could not fly a fix winged aircraft aka cesna or something. People usually get there single engine first.
I know several, but this isn't the point. The point is, you have two people who do two things that, while similar, are very different.

This is a small-scale example:

My brother races motocross (nothing serious; just a hobby--whatever C or B class means). Have him putt around the neighborhood or on low-speed roads on my ZX6R, yeah, he would probably do alright. Get him up to speed (say on a track, twisties, or even a curvy highway), it might get sketchy (for example: counter-steering and leaning aren't a part of what he does).

I have a ZX6R, and while I have never tracked it (yet), I went dirt biking a few weeks ago with my brother. I did alright; I pulled a few jumps and dumped it a few times. However, throw me into a race, and I would more than likely fuck myself up. Pinning the throttle to keep the rear spinning or putting a leg out aren't what street riders do.

So what this boils down to is this: while they're both very similar, they both require an entirely different set of skills.

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Personally, I'd be a lot more ballsy on a dirt bike than a street bike in a race. Less consequences if you go down.
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Personally, I'd be a lot more ballsy on a dirt bike that a street bike in a race. Less consequences if you go down.
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Dumping the dirt bike was a non-event.

Crashing the street bike left a mark.

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