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Old 11-07-2012, 01:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Too easy to be behind the bars of a motorcycle?

Not sure how this varies, but in the state of NC, it seems far to easy to legally drive a motorcycle.

At the age of 16, a person can take the road course given at the DMV to obtain a motorcycle license. But a person can take a 15 minute written exam and obtain a motorcycle permit. That's it. The ONLY restriction on the permit is that the driver may not ride a passenger and they must wear a helmet. They can ride anywhere, with anyone, with any bike, at any given time. At least make it mandatory to take the MSF course or SOMETHING before being able to drive on the roads freely. But no course is necessary, no nothing. That just seems like an accident waiting to happen.

After all, NC DOES have the eight highest motorcycle death rate in the nation for a reason...
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Old 11-07-2012, 01:30 PM   #2 (permalink)
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But where will we buy salvaged motorcycles and parts from?
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Old 11-07-2012, 01:49 PM   #3 (permalink)
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That's the same law here in PA. Unrestricted riding besides: no passengers, no nighttime joy rides, cant leave the state, must wear a helmet.

I got my MC permit after I passed my drivers license when I was 16 and MC license 7 months later.

I see a lot of guys doing that and the age isn't the problem. Its the skills with the maturity level needed to safely ride, which is what they should grade. Not how well you can memorize the "laws" IMO
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I'm 21 and about to get my first bike. Here's the deal, when you're 16, you make certain mistakes that are almost unavoidable because you lack the ability to make certain judgements. I screwed up at that age and did dumb things, but I was in a CAR. Mix bad judgement with a crotch rocket and you're in trouble. That's my opinion. I'm not saying my judgement is incredible now, but it's LEAGUES beyond what it was when I was 16. I would say 18 minimum. In CA if you're under 21 you HAVE to take the MSF course.
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That's the same law here in PA. Unrestricted riding besides: no passengers, no nighttime joy rides, cant leave the state, must wear a helmet.

I got my MC permit after I passed my drivers license when I was 16 and MC license 7 months later.

I see a lot of guys doing that and the age isn't the problem. Its the skills with the maturity level needed to safely ride, which is what they should grade. Not how well you can memorize the "laws" IMO
See we dont even have restrictions on night riding or leaving the state. Its all free range.

And I did the exact same thing when I got my MC permit and license. I agree 100% about the skill level.
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I'm 21 and about to get my first bike. Here's the deal, when you're 16, you make certain mistakes that are almost unavoidable because you lack the ability to make certain judgements. I screwed up at that age and did dumb things, but I was in a CAR. Mix bad judgement with a crotch rocket and you're in trouble. That's my opinion. I'm not saying my judgement is incredible now, but it's LEAGUES beyond what it was when I was 16. I would say 18 minimum. In CA if you're under 21 you HAVE to take the MSF course.
This is true up to about 30-35.
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Around here the restriction is that you have to wear a helmet if you're under 18 (even with a license), and on the permit you have to ride within eyesight of a licensed rider. I didn't know about the restriction on the permit when I had mine though...
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This is true up to about 30-35.
Which is why your insurance drops to next to nothing once you hit 30 :lol
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its too easy for people to obtain a license to operate vehicles in america in general. i know someone that failed their rode test 5-6? times and has a license now. really? what person allows anyone to fail at something so much that can do so much harm to others by allowing them to get the license in the end
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Old 11-07-2012, 05:20 PM   #10 (permalink)
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its too easy for people to obtain a license to operate vehicles in america in general. i know someone that failed their rode test 5-6? times and has a license now. really? what person allows anyone to fail at something so much that can do so much harm to others by allowing them to get the license in the end
I agree with this. As well, I think we should have to retake and pass the drivers exam every few years. And if some fuck nut wants to pull out their phone anytime the instructor is around, they should fail the exam automatically. I get the shits of everyone texting and driving.

This semester I did a report on texting and driving for college, and texting while driving is more dangerous than driving with a BAC level way over the legal limit.
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