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Old 11-14-2012, 06:12 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey all, this is my first real post and it is a short story I have to tell and need some advice on as to how I could best obtain my goal. The goal is obtaining a 3 grand bike for around 500$. How could i possibly do that, well i'd have to know somebody or just be very lucky to find an idiot willing to sell it this cheaply, alas the title problem arrives.....

My friend works construction and while on a job was informed of a motorcycle crashing off into a canyon very near the job site(in that same canyon). The police were called to the scene and after staring over the edge of the cliff laughing at the bike below, decided not to pursue the vehicle (just left it there). I assume they were expecting the owner to file a report and pay to retrieve it themselves....ALAS no such thing happened. The bike sat for 3 months (at the bottom of the canyon) before my friend contacted the police again, they informed him they would do nothing about it because no claim on the vehicle had been made(the owner crashed it and walked away) and they simply did not have the resources to reclaim the vehicle. Another month passes, and my friend finally snaps. If no one wants a brand new bike (90 miles on it) and no one will come get it, hell I'll get it myself. Using his own resources he retrieved the bike and has stored it for the past 3 years. Here is where I come in, I want to buy the bike from my friend. He wants it gone, there is no key, there is no title. How do we go about this without loosing the bike and avoid public auction while somehow getting a new title?
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Old 11-14-2012, 06:18 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Um, depending on your state there is usually some law about abandoned property becoming the property of whoever claims it or whoever's property it sits on. Check out the laws where you live on this.

Otherwise, theres the less legal route, which is buying a used frame and swapping parts over. Since it went off a canyon it wouldn't surprise me if the frame was bent on the bike your friend retrieved anyway.
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California abandoned vehicle law can't find it....how much a new frame run me? Is the vin on the frame? Also another issue, there's no key for the bike.
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California abandoned vehicle law can't find it....how much a new frame run me? Is the vin on the frame? Also another issue, there's no key for the bike.
These no way for us to tell you how much the frame would be without knowing what bike and what year.... but you can go to a locksmith and have them make a key for your bike or you can buy a full lockset off ebay.. again price would depend on what bike and year you have.
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new frames do not come with a new VIN and title.

Generally the OEM locks can be overcome by a screwdriver, hammer and vice grip....then buy a used lock set off ebay. depending on the bike, this might include swapping the upper triple clamp off.
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You'll need to find a used frame on the forums, ebay, or elsewhere, for obvious reasons you'll want an undamaged one. And you can get these for between 400-1000 depending on the year, condition, etc. Like it was also said, you can get a locksmith to come out and make keys for you, or buy a new lock set and install it. Honestly, even if the locksmith costs a little more, I'd just do that, because changing the ignition, gas cap, and rear seat lock is just a bitch.

Honestly though dude, depending on what all else is wrong with it, it's not really worth it if it's only a 3k bike. Your best best would be to buy it, get it running, screw the frame, and sell it as a trackonly bike to get some money for another one.
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Honestly though dude, depending on what all else is wrong with it, it's not really worth it if it's only a 3k bike. Your best best would be to buy it, get it running, screw the frame, and sell it as a trackonly bike to get some money for another one.

Or part it out .....
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I'd like to know what condition the bike was in. Dropping it into a canyon (in my mind) would make it nearly a total write off.
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I'd like to know what condition the bike was in. Dropping it into a canyon (in my mind) would make it nearly a total write off.
+1 that sounds crazy damage. also... if there is no key.. now do you know the mileage? is it older? any idea what kind of bike it even is?
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