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Old 12-10-2012, 07:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Just wondering what you guys (Who've attended track days) think about using the Kawasaki Ninja 300 as a track bike.

I signed up for TeamPro-Motion for 2013 (Inside Pass) and plan on attending probably 4-5 track days @ NYST. This is going to be my first year doing track days, and will be my 3rd year riding motorcycles.

I was thinking about converting my R6 to a street/track bike, or picking up a used older R6 or ZX6R or CBR to be a track-only bike, but my dad wants to get back to street riding with me, but he doesn't want to spend a lot of money - so he came up with the idea of going halves on the Ninja 300. (He can ride on the street, and I can use it as my track bike)

Whatcha guys think? I like the idea because I think I'll be able to focus more-so on technique rather than focus as much on throttle control.

Of course I'll be in the Beginner Group, being my first year, but do you think I'll outgrow the 300? I figure I could probably get 2 years of track-days out of the 300 (at least) before wanting to go up to a 600cc, but would love the opinions of those of you who have actually experienced the track and know what they're talking about.

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Old 12-10-2012, 07:55 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Some experts that rented a 250cc track bike to try it:

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Old 12-10-2012, 08:08 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I would say rather than buying new get something used and already set up. I was seriously contemplating bumping down to a 250 race bike for next year, as they are a riot, but at a track day I think you will get frustrated getting passed by slower riders with a 100 hp advantage. On the right track you could still have a lot of fun, though.


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Old 12-10-2012, 08:10 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Old 12-10-2012, 08:12 PM   #5 (permalink)
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i think a 300 would be great, but a 250 would be better.

as jason said..get a used one.
with the release of the 300 the market is likely to be flooded with race prepped 250's.
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Old 12-10-2012, 08:26 PM   #6 (permalink)
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With your outlook you should be fine with the 300. Probably going to get powered by on the straights but that happens on a 600 too. Personally I say get your body position down and work on your corner speed, don't need much technique on the straights. If you can work out a deal if you total it at the track, or how damage is going to be repaired I would say take the half and half deal. Shit happens sometimes and you may run off or wreck.

What I did though was double duty on my 675. The guy I got it from already wrecked it once so it wasn't in the best of shape and I was going to lose money on it if I tried to resell it anyway, so I didn't mind too much if I binned it at the track. You can work on the same stuff on a 600 as you can on a 300/250 since you have experience and probably won't highside it out of your first corner. I didn't want to crash my 250 at the track in case I wanted to resell it, I could still get a good number on it since it's not all banged up. After a few trackdays I got some bodywork for my 675 and just swap it out when I go to the track, even if you go down you don't have to worry about getting new fairings, turn signals, etc. I would suggest getting bodywork from the get go if you know you are going to be doing more than one or two trackdays.

In Beginner almost everyone brakes really early, goes slow in the corners, and guns it down the straights until they build up some confidence. At my last trackday there were 3 250s, they had their own CR to help them not get ran over by overeager liter bikes. Your mindset will say whether or not you will "outgrow" the 300, no one can really tell you. I personally would not outgrow it, one of those "ride a slow bike fast not a fast bike slow" type things.
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Find a good deal on a used 250 or even a 500 like this. There is no reason to buy a new bike for the track

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i murder dudes on my 250.. they kill me on the straights if i don't get a jump on them, but if i'm out first on the track, i stay there.. normally i get such a gap on everyone they BARELY catch me at T1, but they're still behind me.. so, having an extra 50CCs would definitely help.
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i murder dudes on my 250.. they kill me on the straights if i don't get a jump on them, but if i'm out first on the track, i stay there.. normally i get such a gap on everyone they BARELY catch me at T1, but they're still behind me.. so, having an extra 50CCs would definitely help.
Yeah if it was built like yours, but as it is now the 300 is still like 10hp down on your 250 isn't it?
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