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fixed Full face vs visor style - safety?

It's quite possible this topic has been exhausted somewhere else on this but couldn't find it. SO if it has just point me that way..

Long story short: I have just bought a Nolan N63 full face to replace my old Givi with a visor (forget model name).

The main reason I went for the visor style coz it gets so hot here that when I stop in traffic I generally flip it up. But it is heavy and a tad clumsy.

My friend convinced me that the full face is "much safer". I understand that, but I was wondering if there has ever been a proper survey done? As in really how much safer?

(When I was in the shop I saw a few helmets with these removeable plastic chin pieces. Scarey!)
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It's quite possible this topic has been exhausted somewhere else on this but couldn't find it. SO if it has just point me that way..

Long story short: I have just bought a Nolan N63 full face to replace my old Givi with a visor (forget model name).

The main reason I went for the visor style coz it gets so hot here that when I stop in traffic I generally flip it up. But it is heavy and a tad clumsy.

My friend convinced me that the full face is "much safer". I understand that, but I was wondering if there has ever been a proper survey done? As in really how much safer?

(When I was in the shop I saw a few helmets with these removeable plastic chin pieces. Scarey!)

You'd just generally think a full face helmet is a hell of a lot safer. A one unit piece is much stronger together then basically two pieces of plastic held together by two joints.

All this is just ADVICE because at the end of the day, you can do whatever the FUCK you wanna do.

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those joints may be prone to failure supposedly since its another point where it can break

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Think you've got your answers.

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I thought I saw a test on it a bit back. But I think of it this way - what one would I rather smack my chin off the ground in?


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modular helmets are ABSOLUTELY NOT designed to take an impact on the chin bar, and statistically, 49.6% of impacts occur on the chinbar.. so, lets just say 50/50.
with that said, you might as well wear a 3/4 helmet.. that shit will break off the second it hits the ground and bust you in your teeth.


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^^ what he said. if you really want a modular, get a good one (arai, shoei, etc) . avoid the Scorpion 900 one, that helmets chin bar is one of the flimsiest things ive ever seen. its actually designed to pop off so you can wear it as a 3/4 helmet. (why on earth would you want a chinbar thats designed to break off?)

i want to buy a modular helmet because i wear glasses and regular full-face helmets are a bit of a pain to take on and off with glasses on, but i've considered buying the Bell Revolver Evo, i like my current Bell Helmet, but im not sure if the ease of putting it on/off is worth the risk.

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modular helmets are ABSOLUTELY NOT designed to take an impact on the chin bar, and statistically, 49.6% of impacts occur on the chinbar.. so, lets just say 50/50.
with that said, you might as well wear a 3/4 helmet.. that shit will break off the second it hits the ground and bust you in your teeth.
Thanks everyone, your answers reflect my own simple reasoning, but especially thanks to whitehendrix - I was hoping there would be a statistic out there (though why I need a statistic to convince myself of the obvious truth of what you all pointed out is a mystery!).

@slev - there's a clarity to your logic that is hard to argue with LOL

@sbeast - I completely understand your desire for ease, putting a modular helmet on with glasses on is such a breeze, plus cooler in the heat. That was part of my reasoning too. and in fact I looked at the Bell. But the fact that I always wondered what the stats were almost seems like my intuition was telling me that one day I might end up in that 50% on the asphalt with no jaw left...

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Thanks everyone, your answers reflect my own simple reasoning, but especially thanks to whitehendrix - I was hoping there would be a statistic out there (though why I need a statistic to convince myself of the obvious truth of what you all pointed out is a mystery!).

@slev - there's a clarity to your logic that is hard to argue with LOL

@sbeast - I completely understand your desire for ease, putting a modular helmet on with glasses on is such a breeze, plus cooler in the heat. That was part of my reasoning too. and in fact I looked at the Bell. But the fact that I always wondered what the stats were almost seems like my intuition was telling me that one day I might end up in that 50% on the asphalt with no jaw left...

You must of been writing in white when you were writing out my name above. . .

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