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kawi9 · 10-20-2008, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by WEAZEL

Are you thinking about coming out with a kit?!?!?!

No, i don't will make a kit for sale. It' too many works.

kawi9 · 10-20-2008, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by whitehendrix

beautiful work man!! very nice. i'm building a turbo 7-R myself. the cases (we pretty much share cases between these motors) are good to about 400-450HP at the crank (or more..) with a bottom end build. I'm, building for 250 at thewheel on medium boost. (no over 22psi)

what turbo are you running (type and hot side A/R) and where do you see boost build at? i think my TDO4-L is WAYYYYY too big with an A/R of .61.. might change to a T3 with a .48 A/R.

Thanks,

ZX7 with turbo nice. I never saw ZX7 turbo setup before. Have you thread with pics of your bike ? Have you finished or you building the kit ? Have you built the motor ? Because, the stock piston can't handlind 250whp.

My turbo is a cheap mitsubishi TE04H-13C. I think .61 it's too big for 750cc. Better choice with .48 A/R. My boost start at 4250 rpm and full boost at 6000-7000rpm with low boost.

10163 · 10-20-2008, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by kawi9

Thanks,

ZX7 with turbo nice. I never saw ZX7 turbo setup before. Have you thread with pics of your bike ? Have you finished or you building the kit ? Have you built the motor ? Because, the stock piston can't handlind 250whp.

My turbo is a cheap mitsubishi TE04H-13C. I think .61 it's too big for 750cc. Better choice with .48 A/R. My boost start at 4250 rpm and full boost at 6000-7000rpm with low boost.

Love the set up man! been doing searches on that thing for awhile now, very nice work! Makes my mind wander.....in a good way!

Chris

whitehendrix · 10-20-2008, 10:13 PM

i've read a quick mentioning about a turbo'd 7-R, but there was no writeup on it.. i want to do an EFI conversion using the 10-R ECU and all the running gear (throttle bodies/injectors, switches, harness, ect) for tunability. i will do a full motor build. the only stock parts will be the cams and crank. JE slugs, pauter or carillo rods, clevite bearings, SI valves, and a few other bits will go into it. looking to make 1- 250 HP pull and detune for the street and mild boost.

the project bike (not turbo'd yet)

turbo runout measurement (TDO4-L "13-g" )

cf plates i made

the 1st of two motors to get something special done..

fitting the turbo, mapping the plumbing out. not gonna intercool, though. no need

finances have kept this from being finished.. it's on the back burner til i can afford a TIG welder and some aluminum and stainless. i will build everything myself, and am considering making a CF manifold instead of an aluminum one. the 13-g spools, but i feel i won't see full boost til probably 6-8Krpm. i want it down low.. so i'll probably make a T3 flange set and use the old benz diesel turbo with the .48 A/R.

the bike will be 100% sleeper, muchlike yours.. won't be able to see the turbo.. no air cleaner sticking out or anything. just an unholy sound and a blue flash..lol

your bike is very impressive. phenomenal job sir.

KIRK_ADAMS · 10-21-2008, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by kawi9

Thanks,

ZX7 with turbo nice. I never saw ZX7 turbo setup before. Have you thread with pics of your bike ? Have you finished or you building the kit ? Have you built the motor ? Because, the stock piston can't handlind 250whp.

My turbo is a cheap mitsubishi TE04H-13C. I think .61 it's too big for 750cc. Better choice with .48 A/R. My boost start at 4250 rpm and full boost at 6000-7000rpm with low boost.

thats the same turbo Ihave on my bike....it's a little too big for a 636, but I think the 750 would love it....I have full boost on my 636 by about 9500rpm....

**Kawmaro** · 10-21-2008, 10:46 AM

Damn all that power on swb...must be a handful to ride. Real real nice tho.

kawi9 · 10-21-2008, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by whitehendrix

i've read a quick mentioning about a turbo'd 7-R, but there was no writeup on it.. i want to do an EFI conversion using the 10-R ECU and all the running gear (throttle bodies/injectors, switches, harness, ect) for tunability. i will do a full motor build. the only stock parts will be the cams and crank. JE slugs, pauter or carillo rods, clevite bearings, SI valves, and a few other bits will go into it. looking to make 1- 250 HP pull and detune for the street and mild boost.

the project bike (not turbo'd yet)

turbo runout measurement (TDO4-L "13-g" )

cf plates i made

the 1st of two motors to get something special done..

fitting the turbo, mapping the plumbing out. not gonna intercool, though. no need

finances have kept this from being finished.. it's on the back burner til i can afford a TIG welder and some aluminum and stainless. i will build everything myself, and am considering making a CF manifold instead of an aluminum one. the 13-g spools, but i feel i won't see full boost til probably 6-8Krpm. i want it down low.. so i'll probably make a T3 flange set and use the old benz diesel turbo with the .48 A/R.

the bike will be 100% sleeper, muchlike yours.. won't be able to see the turbo.. no air cleaner sticking out or anything. just an unholy sound and a blue flash..lol

your bike is very impressive. phenomenal job sir.

Thanks,

For building a turbo kit, you will need a lot of times and it's coast always more than you anticipate. I don't know what is your experience and knowledge with mechanical and turbo ? But, if you want build the motor and turbo kit, you have need a lots of knowledge. If you want conversion the carbs to EFI, it's more works but EFI work better than carbs. Put your turbo higher than oil level if you can. You will don't need to put a scavenge oil pump. I need one on my setup, because i can't put the turbo higher than oil level.

kawi9 · 10-21-2008, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by KIRK_ADAMS

thats the same turbo Ihave on my bike....it's a little too big for a 636, but I think the 750 would love it....I have full boost on my 636 by about 9500rpm....

Hi KIRK_ADAMS,

Nice ZX636 turbo setup. I read all your thread and i saw all your videos. Nice job.

I'm not sure what is you turbo unit. It's TDO4-13g or TE04H-13c like mine ?

whitehendrix · 10-21-2008, 11:16 PM

i had a custom bike shop and race car shop for 4.5 years. built 600HP supras and MR-2's and such.

i'm an experienced fabricator and welder, and can TIG aluminum, lay carbon fiber (worked with it on Champion Racing's LMP900 Audi R8 in '02), worked as a machinist for 4 years and have an electrical engineering degree... lol shouldn't be hard..

i'm doing everything myself as to save cost. i the turbo for free for working on a WRX. i'm going to build a flowbench soon. i can convert my stick welder to TIG with a variable-freq motor drive, but i'm just going to save up and but a "real" TIG rig outright, that way i can weld aluminum and Ti if need be.
the FI conversion will not be easy, as i'll need to mil lthe head to accept the cam sensor and weld a bracket/mount up as well, and onvert the simple rotor on the crank to run the "24-1" rotor for the 10-R ECU, and figure a way to mount the gear postion indicator to the shift star. the ECU needs the gear postion to adjust fuel mapping per gear.
the stock cvk carbs will handle 22psi, so i may do this in the meantime.. crank the wastegate down to 6psi andrun it to see what it's like while i build the other motor from the ground up.

so far i have $0.00 into this buildup. the (.090") aluminum sheet i have came from the scrap bin at my old machining job, the turbo was free, and the only cost i have now is to buy stainless and have the turbo fixed, as a acoon was in my shop and knocked it over.. it won't spin now.

other than buying a TIG welder and stainless, (and the 10-R harness and running gear, and internal components) this should be a cheap build. i may just use an old midpipe from another bike and "armadillo" my bends and build my manifold that way..

either way, it'll be cheap. and vastly differnt and custom. i'll use the bike as a promotional tool for my shop when it's done.

kawi9 · 10-22-2008, 09:56 AM

Ok, i see you have good experience in mechanical and turbo too. For your project, you have $0.00 budget. I understand you want make a turbo kit at very low cost. But, don't forget you will need : injection fuel pump, fuel pressure regulator, power commander if you convert to EFI, fuel hose, blow off valve if you run higher than 6psi, scavenge oil pump if you put your turbo under oil level, 2 inches aluminium turbo piping, 2 inches silicone hose, many clamps, boost gauge, wideband and EGT for don't blow your motor, fuel pressure gauge, harder springs clutch and boost controler if you want turn up the boost for hi boost dyno run.

The carbs can handling 25+psi boost. But, the stock internal can't handling 22psi. You will blow your motor between 10 and 15 psi boost. The stock ignition is good for turbo application.

I never see ZX7R Turbo before, it's will be a nice project.