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Old 04-03-2007, 03:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default 2001 Kawasaki Ninja zx6r NO spark, plz help

Just picked up 2001 Ninja fixxer upper, bike has no spark, starter buttn just clicks like it needs some sort of relay, i tried jumping the selenoid, motor turns over fine but has no spark, i know it is a common problem with these bikes as far as clicking starter button. Anyone have any ideas how to fix this problem??

Any input would be greately appreciated
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Old 04-03-2007, 04:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Well if you hit the starter button and it clicks, but you bypass the starter solonoid and the starter engages and cranks the motor, then your "starter button" problem is just that solonoid, and that's a pretty common issue with all motorcycles (not like super common, but it DOES happen). That's not why you're not getting spark, though. If the motor cranks when you bypass the solonoid but it doesn't turn over, then you have to look at other issues.

First things first replace that solonoid so you don't have to bypass it every time you want to troubleshoot your spark problem. With the solonoid fixed (or if you want to keep bypassing it) ground a spark plug to the frame and hit the starter button. Do this one at a time and check to make sure all plugs are getting spark. If one or more aren't sparking, but the plugs look good, check the wires and coils for damage. Coils are also known to need to be replaced every now and then on any older or fixer-upper bike.

If you get spark on all four plugs but the motor still won't turn over, then my guess is that you need to clean your carburetors.

First, observe the throttle bodies and make sure they're opening and closing properly with the throttle, then inspect all the fuel lines for leakage, kinks or restrictions, remove the air filter, and try to turn it over with no intake restrictions. If still no joy, you're looking at probably gummed up carburetors or a motor with almost no compression. Kawi motors are more or less bulletproof, so if the spark and air filter are fine, and the throttle bodies operate properly, it almost has to be the carbs.
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i tried a different starter button and different starter selenoid, the problem is somewhere between the starter button and the starter selenoid, is there some sort of relay between those 2??
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i tried a different starter button and different starter selenoid, the problem is somewhere between the starter button and the starter selenoid, is there some sort of relay between those 2??
The starter button is a simple push-current switch. The battery should go straight to the starter solonoid, then a wire should go off to the starter switch and back to the solonoid, then a fourth wire should run off to the starter itself. Once you hit that switch it should pour direct juice straight from the battery into the starter.

You bypassed the starter solonoid and it cranked the motor, but you replaced the starter solonoid and it still didn't crank? In that case you know it's nothing to do with the battery, starter, or wires going from the battery to the solonoid and the solonoid to the starter. The problem has to be in the group of stuff you bypassed, which would be the wires running from the solonoid to the switch, the ignition kill switch, and the starter switch. When you replaced the starter switch did you replace the whole control unit with the kill switch as well? Have you checked all your connections to make sure they're secure and not corroded?
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mine used to do that. pressed the button over and over like 20 times and it finally kicked and started.
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I pressed that button 100 times and still nothing but clicking, i changed the whole right hand side switch
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Hey i had the same problem !! I would push the starter and the solenoid would just click. I ended up changing my starter and now the engine trys to turn over but im not getting any spark either ?

But for your starter take the clutch cover off and check the gears sometimes there could be a slight seize somewhere. I rotated my starter by hand and all the gears manually and all off a sudden my starter worked. You can also take the stater out and ground it on something and hit the start button and see if it turns !!
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Just solved the same problem, make sure your kick-stand safety switch is plugged in and functioning properly, and make sure the plug going to the CLUTCH LEVER is plugged in. If either of these are unplugged or faulty, the starter will NOT engage, and NO SPARK will happen. Under the airbox there is a plug for the clutch-activated switch going to the main wiring harness, so check to make sure that is plugged in.

If you cover these three points, you will probably fix the bike. Also, Kawasaki repair manual kicks ass, that is where i just found the wiring diagram that showed me the importance of these two switches.

Good luck!
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First things first replace that solonoid so you don't have to bypass it every time you want to troubleshoot your spark problem. With the solonoid fixed (or if you want to keep bypassing it) ground a spark plug to the frame and hit the starter button. Do this one at a time and check to make sure all plugs are getting spark. If one or more aren't sparking, but the plugs look good, check the wires and coils for damage. Coils are also known to need to be replaced every now and then on any older or fixer-upper bike.
Not to go too far off topic, but what if none of the plugs get spark, all coils are getting +12v and each ground is good? The resistance seems to be good on all coils/plugs as well. I do not get spark with the plugs pulled and grounded either. Is it likely to be anything else besides the ignitor?
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I might have solved my own problem. After reading this it seems as though it's the ignition. I had rigged up the ignition to work with a generic key since the original was sold off with the frame and front end. Seems as though I'm SOL without a new kawi ignition.
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