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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 02-21-2009, 10:40 PM Thread Starter
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timing on zx6r please asap

i went to install an ape cam chain tensioner left it all the way out and i think the timing skipped so i tore it all down tried to adjust the timing where is tdc on the lower part of the cam assembly i set it at the t wondering if its the I and which mark have to be level on the top assembly pictures would be great i put it all together and thing i have it a tooth or so off the idle stalls out when its low and it has some lag i plan on getting a manual but i would like to get this asap im going to daytona friday

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this what my kawasaki service manual says from 12.5 BTDC @ 1 300 r/min (rpm) to 35 BTDC @ 4 600 r/min (rpm) hope this helps
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i just recently got my ape one too, and i went to install it but it doesnt seem to be quieting down the engine noise at all, if i loosen it , it just keeps ticking, if i tighten it it makes the rpms drop until it stalls... does anyone know how far excatly you are supposed to have it ? or is there a certain trick to doing this the right way...without taking it to a shop
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From what i understand You put the ape in, u tighten it finger tight and turn the bike on and turn it till the noise goes away. I'm going to have to do the CCT as well.

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If you have skipped timing you will need to make sure all timing marks align not only your cam gears. You need to align your crank with your cams. Ryda, he was talking about cam timing not ignition timing. I'll check my service manual.
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what line is the mark on the bottom the T or the I
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Hope this can help. Doesn't really say the markings
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this what my kawasaki service manual says from 12.5 BTDC @ 1 300 r/min (rpm) to 35 BTDC @ 4 600 r/min (rpm) hope this helps
OMFG

Wow, just wow. Pls stop giving people technical advice. pls.

Set the engine cam timing to the ignition timing is going to turn your exhaust pipe into a giant potato gun. That or you will be the first person in history to get a four stroke to run bachwards.




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From what i understand You put the ape in, u tighten it finger tight and turn the bike on and turn it till the noise goes away. I'm going to have to do the CCT as well.
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Do not run a bike without a properly tensioned cam chain. The tension must be set BEFORE the bike is started.

P.S. Don't throw your money away on a manual CCT. Just shim your stock one or re-spring it and be done with it.
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Wow, just wow. Pls stop giving people technical advice. pls.

Set the engine cam timing to the ignition timing is going to turn your exhaust pipe into a giant potato gun. That or you will be the first person in history to get a four stroke to run bachwards.

1st off i thought the guy was talkin about ignition timing, damn my bad but i let you the MECHANIC tell him for me since you seem to know it all
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Let me shine in here a little with both issues lol.

Take the cam chain tensioner, turn it with your finger until you feel it get a little bit harder to turn (this is the the tensioner you feel pushing on the chain to tightin up the slack). Now it will not take much to get the chain tight, maybe a half turn at most when you feel the slack get tighter. Tighten up the lock nut and start her up, rev her up a tiny bit and listen for noise, if you hear a rattle sound then she's not tight enough, if you hear a whine its too tight, you gotta strike a balance between the two that is quiet with no rattle and no whine, a slight tiny whine is ok IMO as long as the whine is very faint to your ear, almost to the point you have to have your hearing set out to listen in on that such sound and pick it out. Horror stories of cam chain's being too loose and causing problems are once again IMO far fetched, I have seen a cam chain tensioner snap on a older 600 ninja and run for 15 sec without any tension on the chain without any damage at all, I have personally run my 636 plenty of times with not enough tension just to hear the fine point of whine and rattle. Heard plenty of 636's with failed OEM SPRING loaded tensioner's that sounded like they were about to blow up but never did and on top of this I have seen how hard it is on this bike to remove the cam chain from the cam sprockets when doing a valve adjustment and this is with the tensioner all the way out of tension.

TDC on the lower end should read 1/4 if I recall. You will have to remove the valve cover to make sure the timing is dead on, each cam sprocket has a dot on it, these two dots have to be exactly dead even with the cylinder head on each cam. I recommend you get the kawi service manual.

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