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post #1 of 3 (permalink) Old 07-03-2018, 06:50 AM Thread Starter
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D-Tracker 250 / KLX 250 (both 2018) for Commuting?

Hi all, very new to the forum, not so new to riding. I will be moving soon, to a country where I'll have to drive a smaller bike than I'm used to, and in very different weather. I'm going to be living in a mountain area, plenty of small cities and villages, good roads, both twisties and highways (low speed limits, 100kmh on toll highways). Typical 4-seasons weather, with slightly higher precipitation: kind of central Europe, but slightly warmer and wetter. I will be commuting about 100km each day (return trip).

I originally was thinking of a z250 or w250, but the mountainous area and the wet weather made me consider the two models from the topic (D-Tracker 250 and KLX250, the latter with road tires, of course), which have been growing on me more and more. I'll be doing 80% road, 20% sleet/slush on road.

(Also, the z250 feels uncomfortable for commuting and I'm scared it won't feel as safe on wet/slushy surfaces, while the w250 "feels" like a really cheaply built bike...)

Here are a few noob questions which my previous queries on google left me confused about. For all intent and purposes, I'm assuming stock, no mods whatsoever except for the tires.

1.What are those bikes' top speeds, stock, on road (I'm of average build, 178cm 66kg)? I couldn't find any reliable information on this...
1b.What are the bikes' respective reasonable cruising speeds (like, on an expressway)? Will they be able to cruise some 30/40km at 70/90kmh?
2.Is commuting 100km/day on a 250cc viable?
3.Which tires should I get? 80/20 or plain road tires for wet conditions?
4.What are the main differences between the two bikes? Because they seem to be basically the same exact bike, but with different tyres.
5.Is the small tank (roughly 7.5L for both) going to be a pain in the neck? At 25/30 km/l that's going to be more than half the tank gone daily...


6.Bonus: Should I get the W250 or Z250 instead? The former looks pretty cool and I think it has a very comfortable riding position, but I'm worried about highway performance... The latter is probably more uncomfortable, but surely is the most performance-oriented of the lot... I'm really at a loss...

Thank you in advance.

KSquid


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I have a KLX250 (now a 331cc supermoto). The only real problem I can foresee is the tank size and you may want to look into a Clarke or IMS tank.

I had my stock KLX to 90 miles per hour indicated (probably like 82 MPH actual speed or 130 kmh), of course this was on a flat road with the throttle pinned and tucked as best as I could. The KLX will do 60 mph (100 kmh) all day long.

I don't know that I would want to do 100 kilometers everyday on any bike besides a Gold Wing, but the KLX will certainly do it.

For tires I would get the best rain tire you can find and the D-Tracker will probably have more options in this area due to the 17 inch wheels. Bikes are the same otherwise as you thought.

I have no experience with the other bikes mentioned, but the Z250 is a twin from what I can see and will have more power stock than the KLX/D-Tracker so it will be capable of higher speeds.

If you don't have a need to do more than 100 kmh I think the D-Tracker would probably be "better" since it has a more upright riding position and the dirt bike suspension is pretty plush and will likely soak up mountain road irregularities better than the Z250.

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I have a KLX250 (now a 331cc supermoto). The only real problem I can foresee is the tank size and you may want to look into a Clarke or IMS tank.

I am not sure that will be available where I'll be, or that I'll find someone able to install it (although I think it's something I could do myself, I'm not totally inept at these things)...


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I had my stock KLX to 90 miles per hour indicated (probably like 82 MPH actual speed or 130 kmh), of course this was on a flat road with the throttle pinned and tucked as best as I could. The KLX will do 60 mph (100 kmh) all day long.
That is quite reassuring, the few numbers I found on the internet on in potato quality youtube videos were either unrealistic or extremely discouraging. Luckily the commute will be on flat roads. The twisties and angles will be reserved for my weekend exploration trips. 60kmh is good as that is also the speed limit on most of the roads I'll be doing.



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I don't know that I would want to do 100 kilometers everyday on any bike besides a Gold Wing, but the KLX will certainly do it.

I can see where you're coming from, but I don't plan to do it -everyday-. Maybe 2/3 days a week, and only in clear conditions.


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For tires I would get the best rain tire you can find and the D-Tracker will probably have more options in this area due to the 17 inch wheels. Bikes are the same otherwise as you thought.

Good tip, thanks.


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I have no experience with the other bikes mentioned, but the Z250 is a twin from what I can see and will have more power stock than the KLX/D-Tracker so it will be capable of higher speeds.

If you don't have a need to do more than 100 kmh I think the D-Tracker would probably be "better" since it has a more upright riding position and the dirt bike suspension is pretty plush and will likely soak up mountain road irregularities better than the Z250.
Best of luck with whatever you decide.

Ok, thanks for your input. I am still at a complete loss but I got some 2/3 months before actually purchasing the bike, thus plenty of time to make my mind up. Also, once I'm there, I'm going to be looking at what most people ride, as that's usually one's best choice. You know, when you go to Rome...


To be honest I'm actually already shifting my inclination towards a slightly larger displacement bike, something in the 400-650 range: despite being a little more expensive in both initial cost and insurance/taxes/maintenance, it will surely allow for easier cruising at any speed, have less problems with mountains roads, and it actually opens up more buying options.



Stay tuna. I'll surely pester you guys more, and update you on my ultimate decision (with pics! ).


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