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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 03-14-2013, 12:43 AM Thread Starter
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Buying 09' 500, Upper Fairing Question

Planning on buying a friend of a friends 2009 Ninja 500 with almost 13K miles. He's asking for around $2,000 for it (I'm considering offering him $1700 with the damage). It just got out of the shop being serviced replacing front & rear brake pads & repairing a coolant leak (he crashed at 10 mph, coolant leak + fucked up upper fairing and brake pedal). Mechanically, it's in great condition, service records of everything + it's got a year left on the warranty. Vance & Hines exhaust on there which was scuffed up from the lowside as well, but purely cosmetic damage.

There is a decent amount of tread left on tires + he's throwing in a set of brand new pirelli sport demons as well. He's also throwing in integrated carbon fiber turn signals.

I test rode it today and love the bike, but after doing a bit of research that upper fairing cowl is expensive to replace. Over $800 OEM (fuck that).

The only other thing I've found is this: EX500 500R GPZ 500 Ninja Upper Fairing Headlight Cowl New in Stock | eBay

I'm extremely hesitant to trust that, especially since it says it fits 94-2012 models...2009 was the last ninja 500 model lol. & I'd need to get an aftermarket windscreen, *IF* the fairing even fits.

Anyways, I might be able to plastic weld the broken fairing back together, or at the very least zip tie it. If I can't do either of those, anybody have any ideas/sources for an upper fairing? Would a fairing off a zx6 fit with a little bit of cutting possibly?




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Found this- http://www.airtech-streamlining.com/...4-06.htm#price
Says it fits till the 08' model...did the fairings change from 08-09?
Drastic enough to make cutting it out of the question?

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'94-'09 are all the same. If he were to fix the damage, I could see $2000 being reasonable. Damaged, I'm inclined to agree, $1700 would fit the bill, including what he's throwing in. Those tires aren't super expensive.

I was gonna say cracks are easy to weld on the Ninja 500, but it looks like that cowling is missing a whole piece. If you decide to buy a new one, be mindful of fiberglass vs abs. Fiberglass doesn't like to bend, and the cowling HAS to bend to get around the headlight stay (which also holds your cluster).

As the airtech site says, you'll need to fabricate your mounts. I haven't seen the insides of a 500 for a while, but from what I remember (and what experience I have now), it shouldn't be too difficult to figure something out.

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The price for the bike would be great without the damage. I've got an 08 500R, 17k miles, and she's still running great. There are ebay dealers that specialize in parting out bikes. The parts are usually in great condition. With any luck, they'll have one in rhe right color. I don't believe that fixing the damaged part will hold this particular part. After all, the bike does not run quietly, it vibrates still considerably. If the OEM part does not come fully painted, this will cost extra. Some of the paints require multiple coats (base and top, double the price for the paint job...) to get the exact match. ColorRite has the color charts if you need to look it up.
Also check out the engine mount on this bike. It's about a $5 rubber gasket, that causes a $400 repair job when damaged... Most of the bikes never get this kind of mileage, and nobody ever checks on this... Lucky me, though, I had it covered in extended warranty, because I had 15k in 3 years on mine.
The previous poster mentioned tires.. Those look like the original kind on the picture. Not sure if this has changed since, but when I needed replacements, they were classified as 'cruiser' tires, which is really crappy.. I had much better luck with sport touring tires, because that's what this bike is, a little sport tourer, and my favorites are Pirelli Demons. They kept FOREVER, and the bike is running as if it's on rails, but you'll have to get them as a set to get the best results for all weather conditions. (motorcyle-superstore.com, BTW..)
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I was gonna say cracks are easy to weld on the Ninja 500, but it looks like that cowling is missing a whole piece. If you decide to buy a new one, be mindful of fiberglass vs abs. Fiberglass doesn't like to bend, and the cowling HAS to bend to get around the headlight stay (which also holds your cluster).

As the airtech site says, you'll need to fabricate your mounts. I haven't seen the insides of a 500 for a while, but from what I remember (and what experience I have now), it shouldn't be too difficult to figure something out.
Yeah sadly it's missing a whole piece. So what you're saying is that I'm going to have a hard time fitting the cowling around the headlight stay, but it SHOULD be manageable?
Also I have no experience with fabricating mounts, hopefully it's not too difficult for me.

@ninja500hs, the tires on there right now are Pirelli Sport Demons & the new replacement ones are sport demons as well. Thanks for the suggestions
When you say engine mount gasket, I'm not sure what you're talking about?
Could you please point it out for me?
2004 Kawasaki NINJA 500 - EX500 OEM Engine Mount | MotoSport

I'm sure if service to it was needed it'd be covered under warranty, but I'm definitely gonna check out that engine mount before/if I purchase.

I offered him $1700 last night, he said he'd talk to his girlfriend & think on it.
Crossin' my fingers. Figure I'll be able to fix this thing up, ride her around for a while, sell it & still make my money back!

Anyone have any experience with these aftermarket from China fairings on the 500r?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fit-09-12-ZX...d05650&vxp=mtr

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When you say engine mount gasket, I'm not sure what you're talking about?
Could you please point it out for me?
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I'm sure if service to it was needed it'd be covered under warranty, but I'm definitely gonna check out that engine mount before/if I purchase.
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It's on the front, bottom left (the right side never seems to have a problem). This gasket-like part is called engine damper, but I can't find it in any of the parts charts right now. But I see if I can take a quick pic of my bike..
The reason we ever found it, was that I had bought a pre-payed service plan (bought the bike new at the time), and they had taken off the bottom fairings for one of the larger inspections..
The problem is that this thick gasket will fringe and flatten out over time and with a lot of riding. If it breaks out, the engine will just bounce off the frame...which will lead to more damage.
Anyway, if it has to be replaced, the work load is heavy for non-mechanics, like myself... In order to get to it, the fairings have to come off, the engine has to be 'moved' several inches to make room to work, which means, the exhaust needs to come off, and so do the carbs...and the radiator, and, and... It's a bitch..and my mechanic cursed a lot.... I had 4 years extended warranty, which was pretty much payed for by just this bill..
Best thing to do, ride it to a dealership and let them evaluate the condition, if it's questionable.

So, here is the pic. Look at the green 'X'. The stupid cheap piece of crap is right below, separating the engine from the frame along the mounting bolt. You can see by all that's mounted around it, it's a real bitch to work on...

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Holy hell what a bitch for a damn gasket.
Thanks for all the info and the pic. The guy agreed on $1700, so I'm going to go pick it up today
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So what you're saying is that I'm going to have a hard time fitting the cowling around the headlight stay, but it SHOULD be manageable?
On and off, yes. That's just how it is.

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Great choice of bike (I'm biased)!

Finding an upper fairing is a common theme among 500 owners. Lots of people want them, but they are rare and expensive.

Make sure you do the FOG mod, though you may or may not want to wait until the end of your warrenty. Takes all of 15 minutes and will most likely change the way the bike runs (for the better), depending on your stock settings.
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