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post #11 of 37 (permalink) Old 06-19-2013, 07:51 AM
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Clutch needs friction. Friction modifiers help eliminate friction causing the clutch to slip

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Friction modifiers ruin clutch discs.

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This, but to be specific...

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Alright thanks for the help. I don't really know that much about motorcycles as I just got this one about 5 months ago and it is my first. I am still a bit in the dark. I hear what you guys are saying but my mind finds it odd that a high quality oil would cause the friction plates to slip in a wet clutch. I just find that very strange... There are people out there who use Royal Purple in their bikes I'm sure... I understand that Royal Purple reduces friction by a large degree more than most other oil, but is it really so much so that using it ruins the clutch plates??? I need data on this. Sorry I can't just take your word on a forum. If you have a link to information stating that this kind of oil ruins a wet clutch in a Ninja 500 I would greatly appreciate it.

Not trying to beat a dead horse, just trying to understand as fully as possible. Thanks for all the input fellas.

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Alright thanks for the help. I don't really know that much about motorcycles as I just got this one about 5 months ago and it is my first. I am still a bit in the dark. I hear what you guys are saying but my mind finds it odd that a high quality oil would cause the friction plates to slip in a wet clutch. I just find that very strange... There are people out there who use Royal Purple in their bikes I'm sure... I understand that Royal Purple reduces friction by a large degree more than most other oil, but is it really so much so that using it ruins the clutch plates??? I need data on this. Sorry I can't just take your word on a forum. If you have a link to information stating that this kind of oil ruins a wet clutch in a Ninja 500 I would greatly appreciate it.
Pay attention.
Motorcycle clutches are "wet", bathed in engine oil. Motorcycle oils do not have friction modifiers. Auto oil has friction modifiers that are fatal to wet clutches. I don't know a more simple way to explain it.

Why would you come on a forum to ask a question that you don't believe the answer to because it's on a forum. Consider that just because your mind finds the answer wrong, does not make it so. Open your mind and learn.

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Alright thanks for the help. I don't really know that much about motorcycles as I just got this one about 5 months ago and it is my first. I am still a bit in the dark. I hear what you guys are saying but my mind finds it odd that a high quality oil would cause the friction plates to slip in a wet clutch. I just find that very strange... There are people out there who use Royal Purple in their bikes I'm sure... I understand that Royal Purple reduces friction by a large degree more than most other oil, but is it really so much so that using it ruins the clutch plates??? I need data on this. Sorry I can't just take your word on a forum. If you have a link to information stating that this kind of oil ruins a wet clutch in a Ninja 500 I would greatly appreciate it.
It has nothing to do with royal purple per say, but the type you used isn't for wet clutch applications. We don't need to post a link because its so wide spread and common knowledge. It would damage any clutch. Not just a ninja 500r. I understand you are skeptical but at the same time you can to us for info and advice. We didn't try to force our advice on you. Just Google search it and you'll see.



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I'm paying attention man. You can't expect someone who has very little experience in this area to just take your word when you provide absolutely no evidence for your claim. From the research I have done, I cannot find any definitive data that states that friction modifiers ruin wet clutches. I have read a few times that they may cause slippage, but words like "ruin" and "fatal" are much more dramatic than anything I've read.
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If a clutch slips it wears out much faster. In some cases the slipping heats the clutch and damages it= kills

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