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VA_Glocker 07-06-2015 04:06 PM

8000 miles Service on 2011 Kawi 650R... what's done?
 
Hello,

Sorry if its a repeat question, but I tried searching for this topic, but didn't find any information on it.

Hence, asking about what's done in a 8000 miles service/maintenance schedule for a 2011 Kawi 650R?

My dealer gave me some 'BS" sounding list (mainly cleaning and inspecting stuff, engine oil change was only actual work I heard in that list) and said it's going to be around $400-$450 + taxes as applicable.

Thanks,
Rider.

Zandit 07-06-2015 07:53 PM

Check out the service manual, and that will tell you everything,
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0f...wZjAzNjhh/view

alex2002zx6r 07-07-2015 09:58 AM

everything is a check except the spark plugs. should've been replaced. But you kinda do need everything checked at 8k.

Bboytaktix 07-07-2015 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex2002zx6r (Post 4261161)
everything is a check except the spark plugs. should've been replaced. But you kinda do need everything checked at 8k.

lol, no...

I changed my tires at 14,000km (8700 miles), chain and sprocket at 22,000km (13,600 miles) and regular oil/filter change every 5,000km and that's it. My 2013 650 looked pristine and ran like new when I traded it in at 24,500km (15,200 miles)

Check tire pressure, tire wear, chain and sprocket wear, do your regular maintenance. Change your engine air filter if you see that it is excessively dirty. If bike is running strange then take the time to check spark plugs as well, but I hightly doubt they will go bad after 8000 miles. Mine still looked great at 13,600 miles. All depends how you ride I guess. These machines are very reliable and quite low maintenance. Most of Kawasaki's maintenance schedule is a 'check' and not a 'change' so use your own discretion OR bring it to a professional.

alex2002zx6r 07-07-2015 01:29 PM

[QUOTE=Bboytaktix;4261305]lol, no...

If bike is running strange then take the time to check spark plugs as well, but I hightly doubt they will go bad after 8000 miles. Mine still looked great at 13,600 miles.

The service manual says to change the plugs at 7.5 k.

noone in the right mind should go through the trouble of removing a spark plug to check it and not spend 7 bucks (more or less) to replace it.

so "yes" Thanks.

Bboytaktix 07-07-2015 01:35 PM

[quote=alex2002zx6r;4261537]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bboytaktix (Post 4261305)
lol, no...

If bike is running strange then take the time to check spark plugs as well, but I hightly doubt they will go bad after 8000 miles. Mine still looked great at 13,600 miles.

The service manual says to change the plugs at 7.5 k.

noone in the right mind should go through the trouble of removing a spark plug to check it and not spend 7 bucks (more or less) to replace it.

so "yes" Thanks.

You're right. If the maintenance manual says to 'replace' the spark plugs, as it does in this particular case, then yes it will provide some peace of mind. The maintenance manual is generally the proper procedure to follow.

I find it quite ridiculous however (as do many others: http://www.riderforums.com/general-n...ark-plugs.html), and my 650 ran flawlessly until I traded it in with 24,500 km on the odometer.

Kind of like the dated break-in procedure in the manual that has been unchanged since the 70's. I find it comical people still believe they need to break in a modern motorcycle engine this way. When I got my zx636, I broke it in by riding it the way it is supposed to be ridden.

alex2002zx6r 07-07-2015 01:46 PM

[quote=Bboytaktix;4261577]
Quote:

Originally Posted by alex2002zx6r (Post 4261537)

You're right. If the maintenance manual says to 'replace' the spark plugs, as it does in this particular case, then yes it will provide some peace of mind. The maintenance manual is generally the proper procedure to follow.

here's how i based my response.

The guy is going to dealer to service... so basically the rape happens when the manual says "replace" you're facked.

the dealer will charge you. for whatever it says and if you question it, they will pull the book out and go "see"

NOW had he said... "I'm looking through the manual, what SHOULD I do" THEN I would totally agree with you... take em out... clean em... use them for a bit more.

That would be like if you or me walked into a shop and looked at the bill and went "SPARK PLUG?!" what the.... lol :grin2:

Bboytaktix 07-07-2015 01:48 PM

[quote=alex2002zx6r;4261609]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bboytaktix (Post 4261577)

here's how i based my response.

The guy is going to dealer to service... so basically the rape happens when the manual says "replace" you're facked.

the dealer will charge you. for whatever it says and if you question it, they will pull the book out and go "see"

NOW had he said... "I'm looking through the manual, what SHOULD I do" THEN I would totally agree with you... take em out... clean em... use them for a bit more.

That would be like if you or me walked into a shop and looked at the bill and went "SPARK PLUG?!" what the.... lol :grin2:

yep, most people run the plugs until 50-80K and take em out only to realize they still look good as new (well, more or less). They're iridium too making them last much longer.

A lot of the things in the user manual have simply been copy/pasted from previous years for god-knows-how-long. They really should update the manuals with proper information when they refresh the models/engines. If only...

VA_Glocker 07-07-2015 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zandit (Post 4260961)
Check out the service manual, and that will tell you everything,
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0f...wZjAzNjhh/view

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex2002zx6r (Post 4261161)
everything is a check except the spark plugs. should've been replaced. But you kinda do need everything checked at 8k.

[quote=alex2002zx6r;4261537]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bboytaktix (Post 4261305)
lol, no...

If bike is running strange then take the time to check spark plugs as well, but I hightly doubt they will go bad after 8000 miles. Mine still looked great at 13,600 miles.

The service manual says to change the plugs at 7.5 k.

noone in the right mind should go through the trouble of removing a spark plug to check it and not spend 7 bucks (more or less) to replace it.

so "yes" Thanks.

[quote=alex2002zx6r;4261609]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bboytaktix (Post 4261577)

here's how i based my response.

The guy is going to dealer to service... so basically the rape happens when the manual says "replace" you're facked.

the dealer will charge you. for whatever it says and if you question it, they will pull the book out and go "see"

NOW had he said... "I'm looking through the manual, what SHOULD I do" THEN I would totally agree with you... take em out... clean em... use them for a bit more.

That would be like if you or me walked into a shop and looked at the bill and went "SPARK PLUG?!" what the.... lol :grin2:

[quote=Bboytaktix;4261617]
Quote:

Originally Posted by alex2002zx6r (Post 4261609)

yep, most people run the plugs until 50-80K and take em out only to realize they still look good as new (well, more or less). They're iridium too making them last much longer.

A lot of the things in the user manual have simply been copy/pasted from previous years for god-knows-how-long. They really should update the manuals with proper information when they refresh the models/engines. If only...



Thanks for the manual. So, for 8k miles, it says replace Spark-plug. What is your opinion/experience to replace it at 8k miles... is it waster of money?

Also, I do my own oil changes, so can I (technically) ask them not to do it during the 8K servicing?

GR rider 07-08-2015 03:33 AM

[quote=VA_Glocker;4262177][quote=alex2002zx6r;4261537]

[quote=alex2002zx6r;4261609]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bboytaktix (Post 4261617)



Thanks for the manual. So, for 8k miles, it says replace Spark-plug. What is your opinion/experience to replace it at 8k miles... is it waster of money?

Also, I do my own oil changes, so can I (technically) ask them not to do it during the 8K servicing?


Hi VA, from what I know our bike comes with iridium plugs fitted from the factory and their average life span is 24.000kms while regular spark plugs average 12.000 which corresponds with the 8.000 miles mark mentioned in the manual.


You can use any type or brand you like as long as their serial numbers match.


To be honest I don't remember what is stated on this subject about the euro edition right now so I will check later in the day :grin2:


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