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post #21 of 45 (permalink) Old 08-05-2015, 08:51 AM
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I would prefer to see our model evolved and improved to the maximum with all its shortcomings ironed out rather than Kawasaki engaging in a nonsensical power output war.


This category of motorcycles are not about power and the companies and customers can only benefit from that.


The most clever thing for Kawasaki to do would be to introduce an R or RR version as we discussed in he past!


Same engine, less weight, better peripherals, more aggressive looks and riding position and


BOOM!


You offer the best of two worlds without having two conflicting models in your range
Especially not a power war for a sport/touring bike like the ER-6N/Ninja 650. I'd rather they work on further quelling the vibrations, lightening up the weight a little and continuing the overall quality improvement. I had my bike for 24,500 km and it was like new when I traded it in. Easy maintenance, comfortable, and overall a good quality bike. Engine should last for many miles as well. Plus, I must say, although this is more personal opinion, the looks of the Ninja 650 (ER6F) are much superior to this new Yamaha.
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Especially not a power war for a sport/touring bike like the ER-6N/Ninja 650. I'd rather they work on further quelling the vibrations, lightening up the weight a little and continuing the overall quality improvement. I had my bike for 24,500 km and it was like new when I traded it in. Easy maintenance, comfortable, and overall a good quality bike. Engine should last for many miles as well. Plus, I must say, although this is more personal opinion, the looks of the Ninja 650 (ER6F) are much superior to this new Yamaha.
I contacted another guy on the MT-07/FZ-07 forum, and he
said his rear shock rusted away, but to be fair these guys
are from the UK riding in the salt in the winter, but still?
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I would prefer to see our model evolved and improved to the maximum with all its shortcomings ironed out rather than Kawasaki engaging in a nonsensical power output war.


This category of motorcycles are not about power and the companies and customers can only benefit from that.


The most clever thing for Kawasaki to do would be to introduce an R or RR version as we discussed in he past!


Same engine, less weight, better peripherals, more aggressive looks and riding position and


BOOM!


You offer the best of two worlds without having two conflicting models in your range
Hi GR rider,

What do you think of the 2016 ER6N urban city white? Did
Kawasaki change the shape of the gas tank? I like the
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Hi GR rider,

What do you think of the 2016 ER6N urban city white? Did
Kawasaki change the shape of the gas tank? I like the
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Hello my friend, I think that white is a beautiful color for a motorcycle and especially for the Er!


I still think that the black/gold combination of the first generation is the best and that's why I bought it although next year's model was for already available


I must admit that the bike's design evolved and matured significantly through the years though.
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Hello my friend, I think that white is a beautiful color for a motorcycle and especially for the Er!


I still think that the black/gold combination of the first generation is the best and that's why I bought it although next year's model was for already available


I must admit that the bike's design evolved and matured significantly through the years though.
I could be wrong, but I don't think your model and color were
available in Canada; I never saw it in any showrooms. It's a real nice looking bike in black with the gold shock, forks, and rotors. I too think the first generations are the nicest looking; I suppose
that's why I've stuck with my 2007 650R.
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I could be wrong, but I don't think your model and color were
available in Canada; I never saw it in any showrooms. It's a real nice looking bike in black with the gold shock, forks, and rotors. I too think the first generations are the nicest looking; I suppose
that's why I've stuck with my 2007 650R.
The only thing I still don't like is the headlight when the handlebar is locked, it's nice when looking straight though.


What I love is the right side view from the front though, I am still glancing back to see it after all this time


Back when it was introduced it was a revolution in terms of quality and looks for the category's standards, just compare it with the Er-5, and it is still standing the test of time.


Things are moving on though and I would really like to read your impressions if you make the switch to the new generation after all!
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Kawi needs to bring back the triple. Ditch the Z800... it's a joke. Make the ER6 a 600cc parallel twin with a shorter stroke, 270 crank and higher redline with more power and less weight. Z900/Ninja 900 triple to fight the likes of the Street Triple, FZ09, Interceptor. Make the Z1000 a Z1200. Easy peasy. I like my 06 ER6 but it needs less weight, more power and a better sounding engine. Could use a broader power band (4-8K is not enough) and a more rewarding top end IMO.

Honda Grom headlight Morimoto D2S bixenon projector DDM Tuning 55W HID kit Yoshimura TRC exhaust Renthal Superbike Low Bars Corbin seat ZX9R cluster (no speedo healer!)

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The only thing I still don't like is the headlight when the handlebar is locked, it's nice when looking straight though.


What I love is the right side view from the front though, I am still glancing back to see it after all this time


Back when it was introduced it was a revolution in terms of quality and looks for the category's standards, just compare it with the Er-5, and it is still standing the test of time.


Things are moving on though and I would really like to read your impressions if you make the switch to the new generation after all!
There was a new non current 2013 Ninja 650 for sale at Two Wheel
Motorsports in Guelph Ontario last winter, white & black with the red shock. Real sharp looking! It was a low price too, but it sold quickly before I contacted Two Wheel. But again, I've been saying before, the first generation 650R is about 30 pounds lighter than the late model Ninja 650. But I suppose that extra weight would be
beneficial for long highway rides?
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There was a new non current 2013 Ninja 650 for sale at Two Wheel
Motorsports in Guelph Ontario last winter, white & black with the red shock. Real sharp looking! It was a low price too, but it sold quickly before I contacted Two Wheel. But again, I've been saying before, the first generation 650R is about 30 pounds lighter than the late model Ninja 650. But I suppose that extra weight would be
beneficial for long highway rides?

Mine was less then 169 kilos with a bit of gas in the tank after changing the exhaust so, guess what William, weight will be another reason to try an aftermarket exhaust!



Extra weight supposedly helps highway handling but what really matters is the initial setup and the evolution through testing so I wouldn't be very concerned about that!

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Mine was less then 169 kilos with a bit of gas in the tank after changing the exhaust so, guess what William, weight will be another reason to try an aftermarket exhaust!



Extra weight supposedly helps highway handling but what really matters is the initial setup and the evolution through testing so I wouldn't be very concerned about that!
Your bike is even lighter than the FZ-07 with your aftermarket
exhaust. Even guys on the MT-07/FZ-07 forum who traded
their ER6Ns for a FZ-07 admit that at 100 mph the ER was rock
solid. Not so with the FZ-07.

I have thought about an aftermarket exhaust, but for now I've
lost 10 pounds. I weigh about 176 lbs now. What can I say?
I thought about other mods, but I like the way Kawasaki
designed my bike stock. I've thought about wheel stripes. I
know red would be an obvious choice for my bike, but I
was thinking about white? Would white look okay on a red
bike? Thanks.
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