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that's kinda amazing...I don't want to rant but

Steel brake lines only make a difference in racing conditions. One should only get steel brake lines if for some reason they are using their front brake so much that the fluid heats up causing the rubber to expand and therefore one would loose pressure in the brake line.

That's pretty much the main benefit of getting steel brake lines...

want to stop faster get DP HH+ brake pads or something of that sort....

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Yes, this is true, But I don't pussyfoot on my bike, and a ride in the canyons is prety demanding on the front brake. yeah I changed the padds too. But the lines do help. You can get rid of the crappy splitter and run two lines from the front master cyinder, 1 to each front Caliper. Feels much better.

I rode my friend's GSXR once and fell in love with the feel of the brakes. When I went back to my bike the brakes felt week, and lacked the fell of my frinds bike. To tell the truth from day 1 I never really liked the brakes on my bike, i just kinda learned to deal with it. not anymore!

Just saying, if anyone dosent like the brakes on their bike try some steel lines and some good pads. Plus they look sweet!!:D
 

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I asked around a lot about this when I was thinking of upgrading my brake pads, and the conclusion I came to was that all I needed to do was change to steel-braids to improve the feel and responsiveness of the braking system -- you really can't lose with the six-pots on the J1. I even read somewhere (Performance Bikes, I think) that some guys do their racing on the stock brake pads, which are already sintered, and just go for the steel-braids.

The stock sintered pads also wear better with the stock rotors, from experience of those riding longer than I have. I guess the trade-off with after-market is that they eat more into the rotors.

I don't race, but I agree 150% with jahlion, the steel-braids are a prudent modification because it improves your confidence and safety, and that's always a good thing. [^]
 

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Hey guys I just put steel brak lines on my bike and all I can say is WOW. My bike stops much better and has a much better feel to it under braking. If you dont have steel brake lines get them no joke makes all the diffrence!! everyone wants to go fast but you have to stop at some point!!:D
 

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YEA I GOTTA GET A SET OF THOSE

ASS,GRASS,OR GAS NOBODY RIDES FOR FREE! THE TANK IS FULL AND I DONT SMOKE SO FIGURE IT OUT
 

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It can't hurt, but go riding after you get them for a while, so that you are used to them. You don't want to come up to an emergency stop situation and wind up endoing right into the fu*ker in front of you.

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What's the difference in performance for stock/steel/kevlar brake lines? And what are the best aftermarket pads to improve braking power. I have found the brakes on my 02 636 to be lacking in feel and slightly wooden.

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Wolf,

The main difference between stock and steel or kevlar brake lines is that the latter don't stretch or expand as mentioned here earlier. This avoids the spongy feeling which one associates with there being air in the brake lines; in some cases, if the line is old and has stretched enough, the spongy feeling won't go away even if you totally clear the line of air.

Suggestion? You might want to try upgrading to just steel-braids first -- and bleeding the lines well during installation -- before you change the pads. I found there was no need to change the pads after the upgrade -- feel was vastly improved and spongy feeling went away. The lack of feel was thru the lines, not the stock pads themselves which, as I mentioned earlier, are already sintered like the EBC HH or Carbone Lorraine aftermarket pads.

Hope that helps.
 

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While I do agree that the best mod for the money is steel lines, the best all out hands down mod to the braking system on my J1 was the addition of Wave Rotors. I've raced this bike 2 seasons (on the same pair of stock pads by the way) with steel lines and have been very pleased. But with the Wave Rotors the slightest touch of the lever and you can feel everything. I'm more into the curves than stunting but I have just recently learned how to stoppie and now I'm addicted.

Moral is: Get steel lines then spend some $$$$ and get the Waves.
 
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