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Ok here goes I have a 06 Kawi 636, w/ a dynojet QS, ignition module and PC3. I know your already thinking yeah its a Kawi so trans is junk already, which is probabaly true, but I had zero probs w/ trans until I put the QS on.
Shifted great for a couple race weekends then the probs came. I did install a Factory pro star shift kit to clean up shifting but it was just a bandaid that fell off.
I installed QS myself and used the intellishift option, my question(s) are do QSers shorten life of trannnys? and should I manually program shift times and forego intellishift? any other tips are greatly appreciated....thanks.
 

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I have had my quickshifter for a few race weekends and a ton of track days. I have not had a problem at all. Did you mess with the kill length or anything?
 

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I had a Dynojet quick shifter on my 06 ZX-6RR and never had any problems the tranny. I have seen trannys from other bikes (Suzuki, Yamaha and Kawis) have problems when the QS is not set up correctly. I'd take the bike to a shop that deals with race set up or that has experience with setting up the dyno jet quick shifters. If you are in the Atalanta area, check out Marietta Motorsports http://www.1888fastlap.com/store/customer/home.php they have a ton of experience in setting up race bikes.
 

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Yes. Any time you don't shift with your clutch you can be wearing your trans. I ran a BPD quick shifter for the first time this year, racing expert class CCS, and my engine is currently in pieces getting a rebuilt transmission. Now from my experience: 1st to 2nd gear shifting are the hardest on your trans so use your clutch, it wears shifting forks quicker so you might want to plan on swapping them before they cause trans problems, the higher the gear the easier on the trans it seems, and check your chain, I streched my chain pretty badly at Road America this year using the QS.

Your trans was probebly on the edge and couldn't take the added stress.
 

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I agree w/ spooner on everything. However, ddk I did take my tranny to Marietta Motorsports and to make a long story short, they charged me for work that was never performed on m y engine cases....they wont be getting anymore of my business.

As far as Qshifters go I used the intellishift mode on setting up my q/s and seemed to shift ok for a while, but I think im gonna play it safe w/ this new tranny and take it off and shift the old fashion way...never had any prob the old way....

Im gonna repair the trans myself so i will include as many pics and tips i can come up w/. The hardest part is determining what parts are bad in the trans, and use the service manual and take your time w/ it.

Will let u know the outcome, thx all
 

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Im gonna repair the trans myself so i will include as many pics and tips i can come up w/. The hardest part is determining what parts are bad in the trans, and use the service manual and take your time w/ it.
If you have questions feel free to ask. This is my second time changing out gears in my transmission myself. If you have all the tools you can easily pull the motor out and split the case one day and put it back in the next. It seems scarey but once you get it out and split its not that hard.

What is your trans doing?
 

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I had a buddy use the quickshifter on his R1, And needless to say it grenaded the transmission, i don't know if he had it set up right or not but it fukked up almost every gear in the tranny. he tossed it in the trash can after that episode.
 

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I had a buddy use the quickshifter on his R1, And needless to say it grenaded the transmission, i don't know if he had it set up right or not but it fukked up almost every gear in the tranny. he tossed it in the trash can after that episode.

I feel it's a fine line between usage and setup. If you set the sputter time to the shortest possible then it is more likely to wear the gears faster. The more used to shift for higher gears 3+ seems to be less abusive as 1-2 and 2-3. Either way QS shorten the life of your trans, yes if you ride on the street and lightly use your QS you may never have any trouble but if your a drag race or road race and heavily use it then plan to have your trans replaced when your engine is freshened up on off season if it holds out.

When I removed my trans to fix it this time my bike was jumping out of 2nd and 3rd under nuetral or light throttle. All gears and forks were pretty worn so I replaced the whole trans but didn't need to replace everything to fix the trouble. I did so to try and extended the time that my engine would have to be pulled and have the trans replaced again.
 

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I would say if yout gonna do a ton a track days the shifter would be of good use, otherwise its pointless on the street and ur jus hurting yourbike. Its definitely real hard on the tranny.
 

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I set it up using the Intellishift, basically go thru gears at 8k rpms and hit a few buttons for each gear, maybe somehow that was done wrong. I roadrace w/ it and like it.... but if its gonna shorten the life of something thats alreadt weak I guess its comin off...thx all.
 

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I agree w/ spooner on everything. However, ddk I did take my tranny to Marietta Motorsports and to make a long story short, they charged me for work that was never performed on m y engine cases....they wont be getting anymore of my business.

As far as Qshifters go I used the intellishift mode on setting up my q/s and seemed to shift ok for a while, but I think im gonna play it safe w/ this new tranny and take it off and shift the old fashion way...never had any prob the old way....

Im gonna repair the trans myself so i will include as many pics and tips i can come up w/. The hardest part is determining what parts are bad in the trans, and use the service manual and take your time w/ it.

Will let u know the outcome, thx all

Man I'm sorry to hear about Marietta doing that to you. I used to race with one of the mechanics there (he hasn't worked there in about a year or so). He really knew how to build a good race bike.

Good luck with your tranny.
 

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I agree w/ spooner on everything. However, ddk I did take my tranny to Marietta Motorsports and to make a long story short, they charged me for work that was never performed on m y engine cases....they wont be getting anymore of my business.
Well let's make this short story longer. Wished I'd seen this earlier or that you'd of come and spoken to me about this like a man instead of posting behind my back and charging your credit card back after shaking my hand.

I told you what was done to your bike. showed you what was done to your bike. Other customers saw your motor apart. My mechanic signed an affidavit stating what he did to your bike. I've helped you at the track. Helped you over the phone. Bent over backwards to make you a satisfied customer.

For everyones benefit and in my defense (and please understand I HATE having to do this. I believe all issues should be handled at the lowest level and public forums are never that level):
As a shop owner I know I won't be able to please everyone no matter how hard I try. and I try very, very hard. This is one of those customers.
This customer brought me his motor after missed shifts. We'd done several 6R and 636 rebuilds that year. I gave him a quote and he approved work. We started tearing into the engine by removing the oil pan, removing the water pump, its shaft, removing the oil pump. We then pulled apart the oil pump to inspect it and see if it had been damaged by the metal we'd found in the oil and oil pan.
At this point the customer called and said he was going to do the work himself. I gave him a status report of where we were at and that we were looking at the gears through the bottom and could see the ones that were rounded. He told us to put it back together. We did. I charged him 1 hour of labor at racer's rate for the work we'd done and helped him load his motor into his truck.
Customer called back and asked why certain bolts that had safety wire on them still had safety wire. I explained what we'd taken off and let him speak directly with the mechanic.
A few months later I get a notice from my credit card company saying that there's been a charge back. First and only one I've ever had. I sent signed affidavits from my mechanic, myself and contact list of customers who had seen the work and looked at the damage (they also owned Kawis and were interested in the rebuild) to the credit card company as requested.
The charge back was of course reversed because we HAD in fact done the work. Period.

Here's me, the customer and his bike during "better" times. Prior to his first WERA win.

 

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Well let's make this short story longer. Wished I'd seen this earlier or that you'd of come and spoken to me about this like a man instead of posting behind my back and charging your credit card back after shaking my hand.

I told you what was done to your bike. showed you what was done to your bike. Other customers saw your motor apart. My mechanic signed an affidavit stating what he did to your bike. I've helped you at the track. Helped you over the phone. Bent over backwards to make you a satisfied customer.

For everyones benefit and in my defense (and please understand I HATE having to do this. I believe all issues should be handled at the lowest level and public forums are never that level):
As a shop owner I know I won't be able to please everyone no matter how hard I try. and I try very, very hard. This is one of those customers.
This customer brought me his motor after missed shifts. We'd done several 6R and 636 rebuilds that year. I gave him a quote and he approved work. We started tearing into the engine by removing the oil pan, removing the water pump, its shaft, removing the oil pump. We then pulled apart the oil pump to inspect it and see if it had been damaged by the metal we'd found in the oil and oil pan.
At this point the customer called and said he was going to do the work himself. I gave him a status report of where we were at and that we were looking at the gears through the bottom and could see the ones that were rounded. He told us to put it back together. We did. I charged him 1 hour of labor at racer's rate for the work we'd done and helped him load his motor into his truck.
Customer called back and asked why certain bolts that had safety wire on them still had safety wire. I explained what we'd taken off and let him speak directly with the mechanic.
A few months later I get a notice from my credit card company saying that there's been a charge back. First and only one I've ever had. I sent signed affidavits from my mechanic, myself and contact list of customers who had seen the work and looked at the damage (they also owned Kawis and were interested in the rebuild) to the credit card company as requested.
The charge back was of course reversed because we HAD in fact done the work. Period.

Here's me, the customer and his bike during "better" times. Prior to his first WERA win.

damn...
 

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Damn Huey laying the smack down.

I haven't dealt with Marietta Motorsports personally but everything I have heard leads me to believe they are top notch.
 

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No smack down laying. Promise. Just setting record straight.
Dude showed up I'd work on his stuff tomorrow with a smile on my face and a "thank you" for the business. Cash up front though. Hahaha
 
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