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Thank you for the shots. I think I did the exact thing but my exhaust could still touch my tire. I ended up slipping in an extra nut to space out the exhaust the right. I have about .5 inch gap but it's solid and safe. Unless you spot something I did different in these pics :)



 

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A suggestion if I may ?
Loosen the coupling with the header; at the clamp. then rotate the mid pipe slightly so it moves towards the left hand side of the bike (when viewed from the rear ) this may or may not make sense but if you can imagine that the muffler is a lever pivoting in the middle around the mount. Any movement at one end will result in the opposite movement at the other end. I hope that makes sense ?
 

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That lever analogy makes sense but I'm not sure I can move that mid-pipe more to the left at all. It just slides right on straight and clamp right on. Only thing I can do there is maybe use a rubber mallet to slide it on further. I did try rotating it all around and this position is the one that results in the muffler being farthest away from the tire since the mid-pipe has an angle to it.
 

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That lever analogy makes sense but I'm not sure I can move that mid-pipe more to the left at all. It just slides right on straight and clamp right on. Only thing I can do there is maybe use a rubber mallet to slide it on further. I did try rotating it all around and this position is the one that results in the muffler being farthest away from the tire since the mid-pipe has an angle to it.
I also did rotate the midpipe. after reading that tip, I remembered doing that as well. Sorry about that. I would also suggest, make sure that bolt in the top is not overly tight, you will squeeze the two sides together (it looks like you are squeezing them). use loctite and back it off a bit if you ware worried about it. or if you really want to get crazy you could cut a piece of pipe (or cut it off the stock exhaust) to slip over the bolt between the two top holes and tighten against the pipe so you don't squeeze it together too much. That would move the pipe closer to the tire also.

Edit: when you rotate the midpipe the bottom spring retainer is a pain to get on but it gives you clearance so its worth a try.
 

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Genius sir! I see the only difference between our setups is I tightened that bolt much more which slid the exhaust mounting spot farther towards the left side of the bike! I will loosen it up and loctite it up.

I also did rotate the midpipe. after reading that tip, I remembered doing that as well. Sorry about that. I would also suggest, make sure that bolt in the top is not overly tight, you will squeeze the two sides together (it looks like you are squeezing them). use loctite and back it off a bit if you ware worried about it. or if you really want to get crazy you could cut a piece of pipe (or cut it off the stock exhaust) to slip over the bolt between the two top holes and tighten against the pipe so you don't squeeze it together too much. That would move the pipe closer to the tire also.

Edit: when you rotate the midpipe the bottom spring retainer is a pain to get on but it gives you clearance so its worth a try.
 

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Genius sir! I see the only difference between our setups is I tightened that bolt much more which slid the exhaust mounting spot farther towards the left side of the bike! I will loosen it up and loctite it up.
Glad to have helped! After riding for a bit I do have to say it sounds great!! I did find one problem to look out for and that is that the header was a bit close to the lower fairing on the left side. It did start to melt it on mine. I did see it when I installed it but I couldn’t remember what the clearance was on the stock exhaust so I went with where it landed. I should have move it over at that point... Luckily, I noticed it after the first short ride so I believe I fixed it by loosening the mid pipe and header and shifted it over then tighten the header and then the mid pipe with it shifted over so there is more clearance. I’m also getting header heat wrap as a preventative. I’m going to wrap the spots where the fairing are close.
 

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I'm looking to change my stock exhaust and came across this thread. How are things going with the setups here? I'm torn between Two Brothers and M4. I just don't like the stock sound, upgrade will be purely euphonious for me.
 

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I'm looking to change my stock exhaust and came across this thread. How are things going with the setups here? I'm torn between Two Brothers and M4. I just don't like the stock sound, upgrade will be purely euphonious for me.
If you want a nice sounding exhaust I recommend the Black widows, have a shop around for what looks nice, I have a thread here with the sound of mine and I love it, it makes it sound very bassy and not raspy at all. Two brothers always sound nice but the Black widow is half the price and looks better imo whilst sound is mostly the same, M4s imo are incredibly raspy and sound like a tin can on anything other than a big 1000cc inline 4.


Here is the sound. I'd highly recommend them too, they look amazing on the bike and come in full carbon options too if that's more up your alley, I'd avoid their standard round ones cos they look like they're from the 80s
 

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If you want a nice sounding exhaust I recommend the Black widows, have a shop around for what looks nice, I have a thread here with the sound of mine and I love it, it makes it sound very bassy and not raspy at all. Two brothers always sound nice but the Black widow is half the price and looks better imo whilst sound is mostly the same, M4s imo are incredibly raspy and sound like a tin can on anything other than a big 1000cc inline 4.


Here is the sound. I'd highly recommend them too, they look amazing on the bike and come in full carbon options too if that's more up your alley, I'd avoid their standard round ones cos they look like they're from the 80s

Awesome, thanks for the info. I didn't have Black Widow on my radar, but after listening to your clip, I like the sound. Off to the YouTube rabbit hole...
 

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I just ordered a system from Black Widow:

De Cat Low Level Exhaust System 200mm Round Carbon Silencer

Thanks for the advice. I'll follow-up once I install it.
 

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The Black Widow system I ordered came in pretty quickly from the UK. I have to say, there are no YouTube videos that can really provide a accurate representation of how loud this system is without the baffle in. I finished up a bit late and didn't want to rev it, but even during cold start and idle this thing is loud!

I can't wait to to go for a ride and really hear this system in action. I can't believe how this bike went from sounding wimpy, to sounding like a monster. Exactly what I was looking for. The exhaust totally transformed the character of this bike just at idle.
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The Black Widow system I ordered came in pretty quickly from the UK. I have to say, there are no YouTube videos that can really provide a accurate representation of how loud this system is without the baffle in. I finished up a bit late and didn't want to rev it, but even during cold start and idle this thing is loud!

I can't wait to to go for a ride and really hear this system in action. I can't believe how this bike went from sounding wimpy, to sounding like a monster. Exactly what I was looking for. The exhaust totally transformed the character of this bike just at idle.
Nice :) I personally keep the baffle in, I only occasionally take it out when I wanna be a bit of a twat and going places with a lot of tunnels or close walls lol
 

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Went out today for my first ride with my new 200mm Black Widow exhaust, and it was a really enjoyable ride. Great low rumble under 4K RPM, with very dynamic low resonance under engine braking.

The sound really smooths out at constant and higher RPM, but it's right back to a caged monster as soon as you let off of the throttle. I'm going to roll "baffle out" for a while because it's so much fun. I may have to find a new Sunday morning route though with less houses along the route.

I ride with EarPeace ear plugs, so the sound actually lowers for me at higher RPM. The deep bass of the new exhaust is actually helpful to me at low speeds, as the OEM exhaust was so quiet, it was sometimes difficult to hear the engine during low speed maneuvers.

Thanks @Antares for the recommendation, much appreciated!

The install wasn't too bad. Would have been nice if it came with real instructions but there was a YouTube Video of a Delkevic install that helped. Can't wait to go back out again...
 

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Went out today for my first ride with my new 200mm Black Widow exhaust, and it was a really enjoyable ride. Great low rumble under 4K RPM, with very dynamic low resonance under engine braking.

The sound really smooths out at constant and higher RPM, but it's right back to a caged monster as soon as you let off of the throttle. I'm going to roll "baffle out" for a while because it's so much fun. I may have to find a new Sunday morning route though with less houses along the route.

I ride with EarPeace ear plugs, so the sound actually lowers for me at higher RPM. The deep bass of the new exhaust is actually helpful to me at low speeds, as the OEM exhaust was so quiet, it was sometimes difficult to hear the engine during low speed maneuvers.

Thanks @Antares for the recommendation, much appreciated!

The install wasn't too bad. Would have been nice if it came with real instructions but there was a YouTube Video of a Delkevic install that helped. Can't wait to go back out again...
Glad to hear you're enjoying it just as much as I am. You mentioned you have EarPeaces, I wanted to get some too as there were a lot of good reviews, which ones do you have? The Motorsport variants? I heard some people like to use the ones for musicians as they retain a neutral fidelity. I assume they work as well as expected?
 

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Glad to hear you're enjoying it just as much as I am. You mentioned you have EarPeaces, I wanted to get some too as there were a lot of good reviews, which ones do you have? The Motorsport variants? I heard some people like to use the ones for musicians as they retain a neutral fidelity. I assume they work as well as expected?
Yes I have the moto specific variant. I actually have a "limited edition" sponsored by Motorcycle.com and it came with two different sounds filters. Red for the road and black for activities were you dont need to hear anything.

Its probably best to get the regular moto package, as that comes with a third filter for general high volume events.

The cool thing about the red filter is that you can still hear important sounds while on the road.

Definitely works as advertised.

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