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Dynoed mine today. 650 miles and 70 degree weather. 100.7 rwhp @ 12,500 rpm. The dyno also confirmed that there is a slight boost from 8,000 rpm and up. Then a little jump at 11K. Power seems to be real smooth and only the one real boost at 8K. Max torque was 43.8 at 11,000 rpm. Set my shift light at 12.5K. Ran a top speed run also and it topped at 160 mph. I belive this would equal 256 KPH for the others in the world. I was a litte disapointed since I have heard of it hitting over 107 rwhp. And when I dynoed my '91 D model, I hit 83.5 rwhp and topped out at 151, with it being up 3 teeth on the rear. When it was stock, I don't doubt that it could go over 160. I guess that I should have run it when it was cooler, but I got the chance and had to see. Had a RC51 and a '02 Gixxer 750 ahead of me, they both made 127 rwhp. Saw a R6 make 104 with a pipe, 117 on NOS. Also a firm believer of the power commander if you can find a good tuner that can set the maps right and has a dyno to run it. CBR 954 with pipe only 108 rwhm, with pipe and power commander, 130 rwhp!

I will dyno it again when I get my power commander and the Devil pipes. Should be real sweet by then and be over 1000 miles on the clock!


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Did you mean that you only have 650 miles on the bike????

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Didn't your break in say that you shouldn't take it about 4 or so grand for the first 500 miles and then 6-8 grand until 1000 miles?

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There is a post somewhere here in the forum that has some pretty strong evidence to show that if you ride a bike by the manufacturers recommendations, you aren't doing it any justice. Everybody has a different method of doing break in. You gotta find the one that fits you best.

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Sometimes if you follow the manuel, you'll wind up babying the bike. It happened to somebody on here, he babied it and the bike was weak as fuck. He had to mod if just to bring it up to par with other 600's.


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First your bike doesnt have max pawer after only 650 miles on it. On my 03 I noticed a BIG differance in power after putting about 2,000 miles on her. I would say at least 5 rwhp extra, maybe more. Also I know everyone has a different opinion on break in, but still I wouldn't have thrown her on a dyno until after 1,000. Lastly, the 100.7 RWHP is without the ram air effect im sure. That would've given her a few more ponies.

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I agree with tommy the ram air removed would change this test. Also my 636 has about 3200, every day it seems to get faster and faster.
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it's true my bike also seems to have gotten alittle more grunt after 3000 or so miles...




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Sorry it took so long to reply, didn't know if anyone had read it and I needed to get my scanner working again.
First of all, yes, I only had 650 miles on it. After my last bike, I decided that I am not going to baby it through the factory recommended break in. I went with a break in more like Rob Lee and MotoMan suggested in another couple posts. Both were similar in the break ins, and I kind of found a happy medium.
Yes I know that it wouldn't be peak horsepower until around 2000 miles, but I was curious, and many others led towards breaking it in on the dyno. Not as rough as a dragstrip break in (don't recommend it)and it still gives the hard on/ hard off acceleration to seat in the motor, so I wasn't real worried. Besides, it's still under warrenty, and that is when I want it to break if it has to:D, hopefully it won't.
As far as the ram air, I understand that it is good for 7 horsepower at the crank. That would be somewhere between 2 and 4 horsepower at the rear wheels. That isn't usually enought to feel much of a difference.
And finally...the dyno

The 100.7 was on the top gear run that I didn't get printed off. You can clearly see the boost that all the mags are seeing, and you can see where the power drops off. Hopefully in a few weeks, Devil will be ready to ship my exhaust, the power commander will be here and be custom mapped, and I will have a new dyno run. By then, I should have over 2000 miles on it. I will dyno it before everything gets installed anyway. BTW, I have just over 1200 now, and everything is still ticking like it is supposed to!
And yes, I was a little upset when the first 2 runs didn't even break 100 rwhp, but I still understood that she wasn't at her full potential yet! Let me know if anyone else gets a dyno run on theirs.

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Hey where you getting your power commander from??? I'm still trying to get one and powercommander says it won't be for another 2 - 3 weeks....

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Looks very linear except for the serious boost we always seem to get around 8k, which is far better than having any dips...

And you GOTTA love the flat smooth torque curve.

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Originally posted by Guamaniac

Hey where you getting your power commander from??? I'm still trying to get one and powercommander says it won't be for another 2 - 3 weeks....
Not in too much of a hurry, since Devil said that the shotguns won't be ready until the beginning of May. I will also have to spend most of a day on the dyno setting the custom maps for it. No, most shops won't do that and go with the maps that are provided.
You can order the PC IIIr straight from Devil, but they probably aren't available from them yet either.
The PCusb is available from Dynojet now, I just left the website. http://www.powercommander.com/207-411.shtml
And they have some maps available for download. Price is $329.00


I will probably start looking seriously when I have the money in hand.

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Yeah...I also saw them as available on powercommander.com...but I called them up and they said that they won't be ready for another 2-3 weeks (this was on Tuesday).... I already have one on order through my dealer...they always hook me up with some real good prices.. Already have a dyno tuning center ready to do a custom map...it's gonna cost me $150 to get it done... I'm in a hurry just because with my Akra Slip-on I'm gettting some backfiring and a little hesitation... Hope that will fix it.

I know I can get a map off of powercommander.com but as of right now they don't have one for the akra pipes and I figure if I'm gonna do it I might as well get one custom for my bike.

Thanks.

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Guam, make sure it's someone reputable... I'm getting differing opinions now...

Have heard a couple mechanics now tell me that a little popping on rolloffs is not a bad thing, and that even if set up spot on, there should be some. Winders was also saying it's a normal thing, and I mean geez I've yet to hear a race-tuned bike not have some popping.

I think unless it's drastic, it's probably okay... anybody else in the know have some input on the topic?

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Yeah DJ...I know...but I got a PCIII on order already so I'm gonna go ahead and get it done...worst case scenario is I spent some money on getting a custom map for my bike.... I also just found out...actually about 2 days ago that Powercommander has started filling backorders....so it should be here by next week :) Can't wait!!

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The Akrapovic Evo system on the RR is way lean from 10500 up and off the chart by 12000. don't know if the slip-on is lean or not I would say it probably is to.
 

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lean means that the bike isn't getting enough fuel, and rich means that it is getting too much fuel.

for instance, on carburated bikes, if you are running lean, you might install bigger jets, so more fuel flows into the carb bowls, then the bike will run better, and gain horsepower. Most bikes are set up to run lean from the factory, so that the emissions will be lower.
In a lot of cases, when you add an exhaust system, the gases will leave the bike quicker, which will make the bike run lean. You then enrichen the fuel (bigger jets or remap if injected) so that you will have a gain in horsepower.

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