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HOA can ban non-street legal motorcyles, atv's and the sort, but would not be legal to ban a street legal vehicle from driving on a public street.

Boats, RV's etc. under most HOA guidelines must be kept out of sight.
I think the point of some of the posts, like Skywalker's, is that the streets in the HOA neighborhood are not necessarily public streets.
 

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If they don't like the way you friggin walk down the sidewalk they can ban it. .
And before someone jumps down your troat having a fit:

"A recent decision in New Jersey held that private residential communities had the right to place reasonable limitations on political speech, and that in doing so, they were not acting as municipal governments."

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Just like anything. Give someone a little bit of power and they run amok. Sorta like when Skywalker was named moderator. :D
 

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Just like anything. Give someone a little bit of power and they run amok. Sorta like when Skywalker was named moderator. :D

yeah, and I started to poll that made that happen:rolleyes::D
 

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I think the point of some of the posts, like Skywalker's, is that the streets in the HOA neighborhood are not necessarily public streets.
I just did some googling...perhaps this is legal! EEK!?!?!

All I know is, if our HOA board tried to ban it they'd get killed in their sleep. Our community is on the edge of farmland and desert and full of people with sandrails, dirt bikes, ATV's, harelys, sport bikes and anything you can imagine that is fun. I guess you should know your community before you move in is the moral here.

Just an FYI...you can always vote the board out of office in the annual HOA election if you get enough neighbor support and over turn any stupidity they have instilled. If you can't get the support, you're probably better off moving.
 

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I think the point of some of the posts, like Skywalker's, is that the streets in the HOA neighborhood are not necessarily public streets.
Sort of. That's an aspect of it that would give the HOA authority to do what they want without using loopholes and ruses. But in the rare cases where the streets do fall under city control and specifically outside of HOA control, they can simply omit the streets all together and say that said vehicles are a nuisance to the neighborhood, said vehicles being seen and heard are what that nuisance consists of, and therefore are not allowed to be seen or heard within the confines of the HOA's authority.

I don't understand why people are so shocked. Any organization powerful enough to give you whatever you want and need is powerful enough to take everything you have. And oh, the levels that's applicable to. lol

Just like anything. Give someone a little bit of power and they run amok. Sorta like when Skywalker was named moderator. :D
Bah, it's like training a dog. Before they can coexist peacefully and properly abide by the rules, they must first learn who's the boss. :D:p

yeah, and I started to poll that made that happen:rolleyes::D
You started the poll actually after I had been approached about it, but before I had made up my mind and the whole thing took place. It made me pretty suspicious. :D
 

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I just did some googling...perhaps this is legal! EEK!?!?!

All I know is, if our HOA board tried to ban it they'd get killed in their sleep. Our community is on the edge of farmland and desert and full of people with sandrails, dirt bikes, ATV's, harelys, sport bikes and anything you can imagine that is fun. I guess you should know your community before you move in is the moral here.

Just an FYI...you can always vote the board out of office in the annual HOA election if you get enough neighbor support and over turn any stupidity they have instilled. If you can't get the support, you're probably better off moving.
+1!
 

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And before someone jumps down your troat having a fit:

"A recent decision in New Jersey held that private residential communities had the right to place reasonable limitations on political speech, and that in doing so, they were not acting as municipal governments."

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now this one amazes me. So HOA now has the power to limit constitutional rights....wow, just wow. I wonder how long until I have to carry my papers for inspection upon request....oh wait, nevermind.
I could never live in one of those places that dictate thing like what kind of vehicles or permission to have parties or anything like that. I buy my house, I own it and I dictate what happens on every inch of that property. (other than government laws....which are ridiculous anyhow)
 

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now this one amazes me. So HOA now has the power to limit constitutional rights....wow, just wow. I wonder how long until I have to carry my papers for inspection upon request....oh wait, nevermind.
I could never live in one of those places that dictate thing like what kind of vehicles or permission to have parties or anything like that. I buy my house, I own it and I dictate what happens on every inch of that property. (other than government laws....which are ridiculous anyhow)
as much as i agree(or want to) thats not totally true either.
with our homes(property) in view of the public, we HAVE(by law) keep it from being an eyesore. i know that here, theres a law about keeping the lawn maintained. and you cant have broken down vehicles, etc etc...

i OWN(buying) my home. and im not allowed to park on my lawn!

i'll be DAMNED if some jackass is going to tell me i cant. so if i get a ticket for it(i RARELY do it tho) i will be fighting it. and until THEY pay my mortgage, i'll do as I please....

or so i say..until i get hit with some multi thousand dollar fine:(
 

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as much as i agree(or want to) thats not totally true either.
with our homes(property) in view of the public, we HAVE(by law) keep it from being an eyesore. i know that here, theres a law about keeping the lawn maintained. and you cant have broken down vehicles, etc etc...

i OWN(buying) my home. and im not allowed to park on my lawn!

i'll be DAMNED if some jackass is going to tell me i cant. so if i get a ticket for it(i RARELY do it tho) i will be fighting it. and until THEY pay my mortgage, i'll do as I please....

or so i say..until i get hit with some multi thousand dollar fine:(
A perfect example of what a socialist-leaning government can do:

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=779234

Cliffs notes: Milwaukee man gets a $50 parking ticket in 2004. He forgets about it, and leaves it unpaid for 4 years. Over a period of just 4 years, the late fees and interest have turned that ticket into $2,600 in total fines. And before you say, "That's OUTRAGEOUS, I wouldn't pay no $2,600 for a fucking parking ticket, that's cruel and unusual", it gets worse. When he refused to pay $2,600 for a $50 parking ticket, the city TOOK his $245,000 house, HOA-style, and said "Okay, now we're even, you don't have to pay us anymore."

This is why I say "I don't know why you guys are so surprised to hear about this". Governments and civil bodies are two things that should always have the least amount of power physically necissary to still do their basic duties. When people say, "A government big enough to supply for your needs is powerful enough to take everything you have", they really mean it.
 

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I think everyone should remember that if you live in an area with a HOA the best way to deal with it is communicate with your neighbors, and possibly try to get yourself on the HOA board to help prevent the idiotic impulsive rules from being passed. Also make sure you read everything when you sign your mortgage and have your lawyer review it just to make sure that you won't get caught in some situation where they could ban you motorcycle.

But my biggest thought is get involved and find out if their are other neighbors with similar thought about and HOA and do something about it.
 

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I for one would not want some dickwad stunting and reving his POS gixxer up and down my block where my children play in.

C'mon man, Gixxers suck even to stunt. The throttle is touchy down low, almost like an on/off switch, and the oil pickup is in the front of the pan, so doing whoolies it will starve for oil. Geez, if your gonna spread the stunt hate that you carry, at least give us credit for using a 636 or an F4i.
I must agree though, keep it in an empty lot, or industrial road. Cant fuck up the neighbors kid with a circle whoolie gone wrong, even if his mom is a cunt.
 

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The problem with most over-reaching HOA's is the fact that the nosey bitches that have no business having a seat are the only ones to run. The good sensible people never serve on the board. In all honesty, most reasonable average folk dont want the bother.

Best way to solve the problem is stay the hell out of a HOA unless you dont mind living under socialist rule. :D
 

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tell the dude to become a member of said gruop and ban her from the hood :buzzsaw:
The lady actually has her house up for sale. I guess she's spreading the hate as best as she can before she leaves.

I've heard of HOA's but never knew what they were till now. Here in the south we have the mentality 'dis her' my property & i do what i deeerrn well please!'. So hearing about all this is just frightening to me. Abuse of power is all it is. Freedom slowly but surely being taken away.. The crazy thing is the neighborhood is so small. its a 1/4 mile street with col-de-sacs at both ends. I guess about 20 houses. I think the boundaries of the power of the HOA pact should be laid out before any rules are brought up. I can't see myself ever living in an HOA neighborhood.
 

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Here's a story about what kind of power HOA's have! LOL

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcon...pickups_17met.ART0.West.Edition1.4d8a269.html

Frisco man says HOA won't let him park pickup on driveway

01:32 PM CDT on Monday, August 18, 2008
By STEVE STOLER / WFAA-TV (Channel 8)
[email protected]

If there's one thing Texans are serious about, it's pickups.

But a Frisco man says his truck is being targeted simply because his homeowners association doesn't think it's classy enough.

Jim Greenwood said he never dreamed his HOA would have a problem with his new Ford F-150 pickup. Then he received the first of three notices threatening him with fines.

"Mr. Greenwood, you're violating a subdivision rule that prohibits pickup trucks in your driveway," the notice reads.

Stonebriar HOA rules allow several luxury trucks on driveways, including the Cadillac Escalade, Chevy Avalanche, Honda Ridgeline and Lincoln Mark LT.

But most Ford, Dodge or Chevy pickups are restricted.

"It's very frustrating and confusing. It's hard to imagine how an HOA would try to dictate what type of vehicle you can drive and park in your driveway," Mr. Greenwood said.

Bill Osborn of the HOA board said the association also prohibits boats, trailers, golf carts and RVs in driveways.

"The high-end vehicles that are allowed are plush with amenities and covers on the back. It doesn't look like a pickup," he said. "It's fancier."

Mr. Greenwood appealed, claiming his Ford F-150 isn't much different from the Lincoln Mark LT.

"The response was: 'It's our belief that Lincoln markets to a different class of people,' " he said.

"Furthermore, one board member told my wife that if we don't like it, we can move."

HOA officials said that many Stonebriar homeowners own pickups but that they abide by the rules and keep them parked in their garages.

"A Chevy Suburban can be in the driveway," Mr. Greenwood said. "If we had a big Hummer, that could be in the driveway. If we had a Lincoln Mark LT, that could be in the driveway. But a Ford F-150 can't.

"That doesn't make sense."

McKinney Ford dealer Bob Tomes agreed. In Texas, he said, truck owners should have the right to park their pickups on their driveways – even in a gated community.
 

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As your resident Real Estate Broker, I will say that HOAs are pains in asses. Unless residents living in such communities take a stand and oppose these power hungry - and sometimes corrupt - organizations, they will continue to get stronger and stronger.

My advice to anyone looking to buy? Don't buy anywhere where there's an HOA. A condo is one thing, but a house? That's just not cool.
 

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As your resident Real Estate Broker, I will say that HOAs are pains in asses. Unless residents living in such communities take a stand and oppose these power hungry - and sometimes corrupt - organizations, they will continue to get stronger and stronger.

My advice to anyone looking to buy? Don't buy anywhere where there's an HOA. A condo is one thing, but a house? That's just not cool.
Even owning a condo is a pain in the rear when it comes to the HOA. The by-laws set by my HOA aren't bad, but I know there was a neighbor in my development complaining about all of the motorcycles around this summer. We don't fly up and down the street (lots of kids), but he still complains anyway. In fact he complains about all of the kids too... Regardless, nothing can be changed until voting happens. Whether that is by the HOA committee or the homeowners depends on the set up of the association.

I think all HOA are a pain and I will never live in a development with one again.
 
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