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I don't have the time for long road trips where I need to lube the chain but that is a good idea.
 

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I don't have the time for long road trips where I need to lube the chain but that is a good idea.
I will post my verdict after a while using it but my first impressions are great :smile2:

The liftstick is very practical in the garage too and no more dirty rear wheel excuses!

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Ok guys, since this gadget is about cleaning - lubing the chain I will post my impressions here.

I recently bought this:

https://www.louis.de/en/artikel/liftstick-louis/10003338

It's a mini jack that attaches to the tip of the swingarm and lifts up the rear tire for chain maintenance.

It fits in my tank bag and is practical to carry and use.

The company says that it doesn't work with banana, supersport and chopper swingarms but it works great with my bike so I totally recommend it for easy chain maintenance!
I took this mini jack with me on my week long motorcycle trip and it worked soooo good :)

It makes life so much easier when you have to lube the chain daily and it fitted in my tank bag along with ALL my other stuff :thumbup:

I also used Bel Ray Blue Tac chain lube on the road because of the significant highway mileage and the possibility of rain.

I had problems with it recently as the spray head was leaking more lube on my hand than on the chain, I returned it and got another can for free but still had the same problem.

Anyway, I took it with me because when applied correctly it stays on the chain even when the weather is very hot and I immediately hit 90mph when departing on the highway. It is also good for 500+kms in those conditions and actually seals the rain water out of the crucial areas because it is notoriously water repellent (trust me, I had to take it off my hand).

It is ideal for the above conditions but I always wear gloves when applying it and I spray with the can in plastic bag. Also if you don't wipe it and/or wait a few minutes or if you put too much it will fling off and it will be very difficult to clean.

That's why I prefer Motorex Racing for everyday and track use as it is super clean to use and despite looking like wax at first, after a few miles it turns liquid so I can see when the chain is dry or not :nerd:
 

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Try Fluid Film spray from Lowes. It is made with lanolin (wool oil)- with many years of sheep evolution for not attracting dirt and keeping sheepskin moist.

I also like Dupont Chainsaver from Walmart for not attracting dirt, but it does not last as long as the Fluid Film. I put this thinner Dupont Chainsaver on the O or X rings first to soak into them, then use the Fluid Film.

The Dupont Chainsaver also works well in keyholes, or Lowes has specialty lubes for inside locks.
 

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...I also like Dupont Chainsaver from Walmart for not attracting dirt...
I have to say that in my experience the claim that super-sticky sprays attract dirt is a bit of a myth except when riding on dirt roads very often.

I've experimented with all kinds of textures and in the end I was cleaning my chain a couple of times per year no matter what, despite riding in a mostly dry and dusty environment. In my book, it's all about correct application and wiping afterwards and the frequent cleaning of the chain in order to look pristine is actually bad for the longevity of the chain.

Also, in Greece a large number of riders use heavy valvoline oil on their chains and swear by it. I tried it too and find it to be very effective, and of course super cheap, for everyday - normal use. But it's totally useless while travelling or for track use as it will immediately fling off at highway speeds and mess up everything behind your chain guard. Also, it completely washes off when riding in the rain and can therefore cause rusting of the chain.
 

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My chain got rusty in the winter when using just the Dupont Chainsaver, from some salt still left after snow and ice. The Fluid Film seems to prevent rusting better, and keeps the "wet look" longer.

I hardly ever clean my chains, only when they look very dirty, and only with an old cloth and some PB Blaster penetrating oil spray. I think chain brushes might damage the O or X rings.
 

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My chain got rusty in the winter when using just the Dupont Chainsaver, from some salt still left after snow and ice. The Fluid Film seems to prevent rusting better, and keeps the "wet look" longer.

I hardly ever clean my chains, only when they look very dirty, and only with an old cloth and some PB Blaster penetrating oil spray. I think chain brushes might damage the O or X rings.
What I meant was that when riding in the rain chain oils / lubes with oily texture wash off pretty quickly and if you don't apply a new layer of oil after stopping on dry chain, it's like instant rust on the contact points of the links.

We never get snow and salt on the roads here so I guess that, like engine oil, chain lube choice is dictated by different parameters and there's no holy grail apart from timely maintenance.

The super sticky stuff worked excellent in the above mentioned circumstances, despite some drawbacks considering practicality, so I do recommend it for everyday travel use!
 

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I have used a few different things but fall back on WD-40 and synthetic oil. I do not spay the chain with the WD (as I don't want WD to get to the rings) but rather spray a rag and just use it to wipe any gunk off. Then I use oil (currently Royal Purple because I have it laying around) and a plastic syringe I got from the dentist after getting my wisdom teeth yanked. I start at the master (reference point) and work my way around hitting each x-ring. No sticky mess, crap flinging, and I can still see my purty gold chain which along with the sprockets are still in excellent shape.

So far so good

Edit: Also, I always clean my chain after a decent length ride as the heat will help with the maintenance. My .02
 

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I have used a few different things but fall back on WD-40 and synthetic oil. I do not spay the chain with the WD (as I don't want WD to get to the rings) but rather spray a rag and just use it to wipe any gunk off. Then I use oil (currently Royal Purple because I have it laying around) and a plastic syringe I got from the dentist after getting my wisdom teeth yanked. I start at the master (reference point) and work my way around hitting each x-ring. No sticky mess, crap flinging, and I can still see my purty gold chain which along with the sprockets are still in excellent shape.

So far so good

Edit: Also, I always clean my chain after a decent length ride as the heat will help with the maintenance. My .02
Also, a good way to safely carry oil with you in case you need to lube the chain on the road is to use a contact lenses fluid container, or even better, a plastic bicycle chain oil container with the pointy drop by drop dispensing nozzle.
 

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All I do to clean my chain is a chain brush, rag and some Wd-40 chain cleaner and wax. Just spray on some chain cleaner all over the chain then use the brush to get most of the muc off spay a bit more chain cleaner on then wipe down with a rag, while you're at it you can clean the sprockets aswell, when the chain is dry spay some wax on and jobs a good'un.
 

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I wipe the chain clean with a rag and kerosene. That's what it says in the owners manual. I don't have a bike stand so I walk the bike 2-3 feet, clean etc., etc. Then I spray the chain with just ordinary Lucas cleaner.
 

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If you have a padlock stand lift rear of bike up, start bike and place in 1st gear and release clutch slowly, if idle is high enough chain will rotate on tick over allowing you to use wire brush to clean chain, then lube with high quality "no fly off"chain lube. That's what I do but not very often. Just lube regular intervals. I do my chain once a week over here in the uk.
 

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If you use a wire brush to clean the chain, make sure the bristles are very soft, or your cleaning might be destroying the rubber/soft plastic X or O rings. I would want a very long handle for the brush- there are dozens of guys nationwide that have lost fingers or thumbs from getting them caught in the back sprocket.

I just use an old, soft cloth with some PB Blaster penetrating oil spray added to the cloth.

I think frequent lubing (especially when riding in the rain) and making sure the chain stays adjusted (not too tight, not too loose) help make the chain last the longest. It also helps to use steel sprockets and the stock (wider) chain size. The stock front sprocket often has a cush drive that is missing on aftermarket front sprockets.
 

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If you have a padlock stand lift rear of bike up, start bike and place in 1st gear and release clutch slowly, if idle is high enough chain will rotate on tick over allowing you to use wire brush to clean chain, then lube with high quality "no fly off"chain lube. That's what I do but not very often. Just lube regular intervals. I do my chain once a week over here in the uk.
This is NOT good advice NEVER try to clean the chain with the bike running and in gear.

Please read the earlier pages of this thread before you hurt yourself as "J 'n K" (ZZR600-2008) stated
 

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Yes don't ever clean the chain with the bike in gear, about the worst thing to do.

I use Maxima chain clean spray and gold wax. Clean the chain with the spray and water until it looks good and then drive around the block to dry and heat up the chain. Then spray the way from the top down on the inside chain where the rollers are and then spin the wheel by hand to move the wax to the outside. I then use a rag to wipe off all the wax on the outside/sides of the chain. This prevents dirt and stuff gathering. Leave the bike 10 min and its good to go. I get approx 50000km on my chains.


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I use kerosene and a grunge brush to clean the chain (about every 500 - 1000 miles or after it rains), and every 200 miles i use motule to lube it up. I also ride a 2013 ninja 650.
 

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Ok guys, since this gadget is about cleaning - lubing the chain I will post my impressions here.

I recently bought this:

https://www.louis.de/en/artikel/liftstick-louis/10003338

It's a mini jack that attaches to the tip of the swingarm and lifts up the rear tire for chain maintenance.

It fits in my tank bag and is practical to carry and use.

The company says that it doesn't work with banana, supersport and chopper swingarms but it works great with my bike so I totally recommend it for easy chain maintenance!

I took this mini jack with me on my week long motorcycle trip and it worked soooo good :)

It makes life so much easier when you have to lube the chain daily and it fitted in my tank bag along with ALL my other stuff :thumbup:

I also used Bel Ray Blue Tac chain lube on the road because of the significant highway mileage and the possibility of rain.

I had problems with it recently as the spray head was leaking more lube on my hand than on the chain, I returned it and got another can for free but still had the same problem.

Anyway, I took it with me because when applied correctly it stays on the chain even when the weather is very hot and I immediately hit 90mph when departing on the highway. It is also good for 500+kms in those conditions and actually seals the rain water out of the crucial areas because it is notoriously water repellent (trust me, I had to take it off my hand).

It is ideal for the above conditions but I always wear gloves when applying it and I spray with the can in plastic bag. Also if you don't wipe it and/or wait a few minutes or if you put too much it will fling off and it will be very difficult to clean.
Addendum to the above impressions, the lift stick is of the highest quality and still works like new but I had a unpleasant experience with Bel Ray's Super Clean chain lube.

I bought a can of Bel Ray Super Clean lube by mistake just before departing for France a few months ago because it looked a lot like the Blue Tac variant that I originally wanted and I was in a bit of rush. Although it spays ok with without leaking on my hand, I quickly realized that this spray lube is completely ineffective for long trips with a fully loaded bike. My chain was always dry and noisy and I ended up lubing it every evening without seeing any significant improvement, while with the Blue Tac variant I had a pristine looking chain, still perfectly lubed even after 500+ highway kms under scorching conditions. I read afterwards that the Super Clean was developed for track days and zero flinging but from me it's a huge thumbs down because it was so ineffective that I ended up with two knots on my chain for the first time after my euro trip :mad:

In order to rectify that, I thoroughly cleaned the chain with a lot of kerosene, a grunge brush and a toothbrush :laugh: then I wiped it clean, let it dry for 48 hours, and re-lubed it after warming it slightly with a hair dryer with this:

https://eshop.wurth.co.uk/Adhesive-...GBP/?VisibleSearchTerm=HHS&CampaignName=SR001

I chose it carefully because it seems to combine the attributes of a penetrating fluid and a high quality adhesive dry lube while taking good care of the o-rings :nerd:



The result was amazing as the knots disappeared and the chain was as good as new so I highly recommend using this product especially after maintenance on a very clean chain! It is also very clean, I didn't wipe it at all but let it dry on the chain overnight.

The only downside is that it is quite expensive and it will probably dry out faster than the Blue Tac stuff during hot motorway stints but when it comes to maintenance it is really amazing :smile2:

I would definitely stay away from the Super Clean white stuff though :thumbdown:
 

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Update: I've been using the Ipone X-Treme Chain Road spray for two years now and I am very happy with it :)

It has the most practical spray nozzle I've ever used and it goes white when applied on the chain and translucent afterward.

It is good for 500km of scorching hot highway, it stays on in wet conditions without turning into sludge and it is very clean when applied properly.

It has an 800km recommendation between applications but the usual 500km interval would be more realistic, especially with the bike fully loaded.

Thumbs up from me!
 
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