[mofat01]

I got a 03 636 that likes to leak oil, I tore it down today to see where its coming from

One of the front oil pan bolts is stripped, I can't get it to tighten and thats where its leaking from.

Since these thread into the bottom of the motor how can I go about fixing it?

 

[locknload]

google HELICOIL. you'll be fine, it's an easy fix.

 

[mofat01]

google HELICOIL. you'll be fine, it's an easy fix.

I'm checking it out....there's a lot of info on that site....how can I tell what I need to buy?

 

[locknload]

go to emhart.com. look at helicoil screw thread inserts.

 

[mofat01]

go to emhart.com. look at helicoil screw thread inserts.

Thats where I'm at....the bolts are 6x30

I can't find what I need on that site, there too much stuff goin on I'll have to call em

 

[vipola]

been there done that
Get a Thread Kit ans Re-Thread it bigger

 

[locknload]

been there done that
Get a Thread Kit and Re-Thread it bigger....do a hack job

fixed

 

[mofat01]

been there done that
Get a Thread Kit ans Re-Thread it bigger

Imma try the helicoils, I think they sale em at napa and autozone, gonna check tomorrow

 

[mofat01]

8mm 6x30 thread insert is hard to find

Has anyone else repaired these threads that can point me to what other inserts are close in size that may fit?

 

[DaWizzard]

metric thread pitch..... compared to inch thread pitch...

m8 closest outside diameter in inch is .314" which is 5/16
m6 closest outside diameter in inch is .236" so use a 1/4 x 20 threads per inch or 1/4 28 tpi

so u have a few options dude... drill and tap it bigger... and use a heli coil.. or drill and tap it so a 1/4 inch bolt will fit...

so.. to find drill sizes for taps this is how u do it..
1.. u have a tap drill chart.. and find the coresponding drill for the tap u use
or
2.. use a formula..
metric... use this one.. diameter of tap subtract the pitch = drill size
tap M6 * 1.00 example M6 - 1 = 5mm drill diameter for the m6 tap
if u dont have a metric drill... u can use an inch drill... just convert the millimeter (mm) to inch measurement.. like this
mm times 0.03937= inch measurment
example... 5mm * .03937 = .19685" ... so u use a 0.197 or a 0.194 inch drill for that metric tap...
.03937 is the magic number used to convert MM to inch

for a inch tap such as 1/4 * 20 TPI use this formula
tap size(major diameter) subtract the pitch = your drill size (minor diameter)
so example
1/4 - 1/20 = drill size
.250 - .050 = .200 drill size
now .200 is an odd size drill to find.. so what u do is go buy a 3/16 (.187) drill and use that to drill ur hole... ( every hole drilled will drill oversized by .010 so your .187 will infact be .197 by the end of the drilling.. so its good for your 1/4 tap

now.. after u drill the hole.... let the aluminum cool a bit... (water on this to help is ok) if u dont let it cool and tap right after... the tap may gall up and tear ur threads...
always cut metal cool never hot or warm...

get a small square and use it to square up the tap with the hole.. also do this with the drill before drilling

now dude... here is what u do..... me personally im a machinist.. and i do this crap everyday... so the closest bolt to fit in that stripped hold is a 1/4 * 20 bolt..
ur block is aluminum so.. use coarse threads...
1/4 * 20 threads per inch (TPI) needs a drill size of .200

now u just fixed ur bike for the cost of the tap and drill bit... and learned how to do it in the process... so you will never have to pay anyone to do it every again...LOL bad for me cause i rely on people messin up there crap so i can fix it...lol


taps come in a set of 3.. a starter tap... a finishing tap is all u need... u can tell by the taper at the beginning of the tap.... large taper goin up about 6 or 7 threads is the starter.. small taper going up 1 or 1 .5 threads is the finishing tap...
u use the finishing tap to tap blind holes and bottoming out the threads for ur bolt..


pm me if u need any more advice

 

[joe-rocket]

listen to the fellow machinist above!.....i second what he explained!
Re-Tap 1/4-20 and get a nice stainless 1/4-20 bolt. i wouldn't use a heli coil if you didn't have to!

 

[rdzmzda]

just be careful if not done right you will cause a bigger issue