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10 miles? I tried a lot and never got it up. I make my knees grab the tank. I even lean forward a little. Am I supposed to kick up like I do on a bicycle? If so that wouldn't make a difference because motorcycle weigh about 400 pounds.

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ya gotta really get on the binders. and your right, you will need to jerk slighlty to get a smoother one. i start mine at about 60 mph now and they are usually nice. the slower you go the more chance,IMO, that you have of going over. you are NEVER as high as you think you are.
 

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Maybe I was going up. I just don't know. I'll just have to have someone watch me.

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This is how I learned. I would go about 50mph and get on the front brakes and slow down, then do it over and over trying to slow down faster and faster. After about 15 tries my rear tire would come up on its own, but only a couple of inches. After you get that down you just have to perfect your front brake control. Thats what worked for me.

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10 miles an hour? well i guess if u literally jam the front brakes, ull come up. I learned at about 30 miles an hour... i kept going back and forth in a parking lot. Like miny is sayin... keep hitting the brake more and more each time, eventually ull be so pissed off with urself for being too scared to just do it, ull squeeze the brake harder and harder and ur rear will come up. (even if just an inch... its a start) elbows locked, feet on pegs, ass hovering about an inch over the seat, thighs around tank...
 

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BJ....hahahaha...you are exactly right. That's how I did my first stoppie. I was trying and trying and trying...and nothing was happening. Then as you said "eventually ull be so pissed off with urself for being too scared to just do it, ull squeeze the brake harder and harder and ur rear will come up"

Finally I jammed on my brakes hard enough I did a decent stoppie. I have stopped doing stoppies though because I had a couple close calls that I can't figure out why they happened (tires were warm, good road conditions, good techinque) that I've come to realize stoppies are sometimes very uncontrollable...at least for the novice rider like me.

Wheelies are the next thing I'm trying to get down. I don't want to be a stunt kid, I just want to know how to do them on my bike. So far I can get my front wheel off the ground about a foot in first gear. Damn I suck.

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Just go about 30 mph and brake hard. When you're just about stopped grab a big hard handfull of those brakes and lean forward. It will come up!

The important thing is to make sure your forks compress a lot before you grab the big handful. Otherwise bad things happen.

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you know, everytime i try this method, i always am to afraid that i would lock up the front tire and just skid my self to a face plant

how do you know when the front tire is going to lock up?

Originally posted by iowazx6r

Just go about 30 mph and brake hard. When you're just about stopped grab a big hard handfull of those brakes and lean forward. It will come up!

The important thing is to make sure your forks compress a lot before you grab the big handful. Otherwise bad things happen.

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how do you know when the front tire is going to lock up?


you'll feel it. theres no other way to describe it. and if the front skids you should have fast enough reaction time to let off. ive had it happen prolly 5 times. from iether cold tires, worn tires, or sand/rock. it is a little scary but youll get over it if it happens. now the real thing to watch for is when you doing a stoppie and you feel the front wheel start giving headshake. from the videos ive seen this happens right before you go over. ive been seeing it happen and back off immediately. going over looks pretty painful[xx(]
 

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Originally posted by a007sniper

10 miles? I tried a lot and never got it up. I make my knees grab the tank. I even lean forward a little. Am I supposed to kick up like I do on a bicycle? If so that wouldn't make a difference because motorcycle weigh about 400 pounds.

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Find a steep hill it's a lot easier. Set front shock to supper soft so they compress really easy, when you feel them bottom out then lock them up ass off seat that should do it.

Going down a hill is a lot easier.
 

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I think I'll go down the levee by my house. That's steep enough.

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Go about 35 and then pinch the tank with your thighs, slowly pull the breaks in with control, then once the forks compress pull give the brakes a good squeeze and kinda bounce up. I dont konw if you ever did a bunny hop on a bmx bike, but kinda the same thing. gotta get your body weight to help you initiate the reat coming up, after that it's all break control. Make sure there is not gravel and tires/ road are warm... Last thing.... don't crash![:0]

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iowa, i gotta say, for a bike that went over the top it looks great. most bikes wouldve had the upper smashed, windshield, mirrors, a side fairing, even seen tail fairings get fucked up. you didnt fair too bad.
 

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What happened was the rear end swung to the right. I'm sure I could have recovered, but I said screw it and jumped off. I'd rather hurt my pride (I was with 3 friends) and my bike instead of my head.

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Yeah really, you got off lucky. I smashed the upper cowl & headlight assy, bent the subframe, trashed the right cowl, mirror, bar end & windscreen. Luckily I had sent my exhaust back to muzzy, so I had the stock shit on. That got a little rash too

That was my first attempt @ a rolling stoppie. I have since learned its alot more technique then you would think. Its one fluid motion, rolling along grab the brake semi-hard as the suspension compresses lean forward while still applying the brake. The weight transfer alone is just enough to lift the rear a little.

IM by no means a stoppie king but I can do them. Not quite comfortable @ 45 degrees yet, IM working on it though.

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