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Okay...I've done some researching and I've realized that I can't afford a full exhaust system at this point in my life, so I'll be getting a slip on and what I've heard from most of you, a slip on doesn't really give you any more of a performance edge at all. With that said, I've researched some brands like D&D, 2bros, Yosh and a couple others and have since found D&D the cheapest. So I think I'm going to go with them. Is this a good choice?

Also, as cold weather approaches, my question is what should the psi on my tires be in the colder weather? Keep in mind, I don't really race or do anything real crazy on my bike, so don't give me an answer that best benefits performance, I'm looking for more longer life for my tires or even safety concerns.

Thanks!

BTW - You guys who give me advice are the coolest people I know. If we ever meet, I'll not only buy you a beer, I'll get you a lap dance too!

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Edited by - Marine on 10/15/2002 01:01:01
 

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I've heard some good things about the D&D, nice sound etc.

I went with a Yosh SR-3 bolt-on, paid $290 at a local moto store, and love the sound plus it's made in the good 'ol USofA. The paper work Yosh sent with it shows a before & after dyno of a '00 zx-6r, 95hp before and 102hp after. Is that for real? beats the dog snot outta me, I just love the look of the oval pipe and the sound, the sound, the sound. My wife hears me 5 or 6 blocks away, depending on my wrist position, and has the garage open for me as I drive up.

I did not and do not see a reason to re-jet, but I did get a K&N and noticed some smothing out of the motor when I'm just holding speed. No differance in acceleration or deceleration, she pulls and sucks like the bitch she is, I lover her.

From the looking & asking around I did, you really can't go wrong with any of the name brands. Might try ebay, I've seen some desent deals there from time to time.

Hope this helps.

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Edited by - aqon2welz on 10/15/2002 03:02:59
 

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Marine, please don't take this the wrong way, but why do you need another exhaust at all? It seems from your posts that you are fairly new to sportbikes and you are still getting the hang of riding. Nothing wrong with that, but please understand that loud pipes don't save lives they just draw attention. It is not all about how you sound or look, but the experience you get out of the riding. Obviously, by your posts, you love riding, so get out there and wear out a few sets of tires before you bother spending hard earned cash on a noise maker. Don't take offense, just my two cents:)
 

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Weezy, I cannot agree with you! Loud pipes DO save lifes!! At least here in Portugal, where no one knows what car mirrors are for! If they don't see you coming, at least they hear you, and try to see who's there, if you use a loud pipe.

My first bike, a brand-new Honda XL650V Transalp, was trashed to the scrap yard by a lady who "didn't saw you". It was four month old (the bike) and I took a huge hit with my head on the sidewalk (that can explain somethings about my behavior <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>). My Arai Quantum/f saved my life that night, but I coulnd't even mount on a bike for a month, due to the pains in my whole body!! I found out muscles in places I'd never thought possible. Besides my helmet, I was wearing full protection gear.

And I was only riding at 70 km/h (that's 45 mph).

Loud pipes can save lifes!!

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Edited by - Synd on 10/15/2002 07:31:02
 

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Hey Marine.....

As far as slip-ons go....pick what you like based on noise and price.....many downloadable wave files of pipe sounds somewhere.....gains are all somewhere the same.....

As far as pressure goes what are you running now??? 36-38......that is what I recommend for most average riders.....2 up/mixed riding(highway/backroads)....colder weather.....mmmm....drop 1-2 psi per front rear tire.....Front should never go below 34psi or expect scalloping of the tire. Rear is more forgiving.....I run mine 34-34 for all occasions....unless I know she's coming along...then up the psi a little to help balance things out..

Hope this helps...

Jason

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I agree with Weezy, loud pipes just attract the attention of the pooolice. The only way that loud pipes let other cars know you are there is if they are a loud as a top fuel draggster. Even the stock can is loud when you wick it up.
 

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Weezy, absolutely no offense taken at all. I understand that I'm a fairly new rider (almost a year now) and I've riden/ride safe enough to have avoided any accident during that time. Loud pipes probably don't save lives, but I believe part (maybe a small part) of the reason people get bikes in the first place is TO be seen and heard for that matter (Harley people ya know...) and a slip on is a fairly inexpensive way to inprove both looks and sound. Not that I don't love the stock pipe I have now, but as you know on the 02 6Rs they just are shinny enough for me. Me's like em' shinny! =)

When I get one, I won't change the way I ride at all. I really appreciate your input about pipes and such...and again... no offense taken at all. I realize my riding experience is small compared to most of ya'll, but you have to start somewhere right? The first street bike I ever had was a ZR-7 (750cc) and it was heavy and alot harder to manuver than the 6R I have now. However, it was a great bike to learn on and I have confidence (without losing respect) that I'll be alright even though the most careful of riders can still get into wrecks because dumbass (BLIND) car drivers out there, but as long as I do MY part in watching out, and riding safe, my chances are getting into an accident are greatly decreased. Right? =)

Thanks again to everyone that helped me out...even you Weez! =)

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Please ignore the million typos on above post... damn I'm an idiot!

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Okay..some say D&D are really loud and draw too much attention..

If I get this one "S/G Alum Slip on show and go chrome with polished aluminum silencer 24x8x8"

Would that help reduce the noise? "aluminum silencer"?

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I guess what I'm asking is, what does the Aluminum Silencer do?

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They are all silencers, stock is more so than others. If you get a chance take your pipe off and run your bike - WOW is that loud =)

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Only advice I would give to getting as can is to make sure it complies to FIM noise regs so you can leave it on when you go on a track day. Fitted a Remus Viper on mine, Sounds really good.

Top Tip: If you ride with a group of mates make sure that one of them has a loader can than you. That'll help to save you the fixed penalty fine :) if the police take an interest.
 

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Good advise elf. However I don't really plan on taking it to the track, I do however try to ride with as many sport bike people as possible...even though most of them are crazy as f*ck.

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I put a full acroprovic race system on my 02 zx6r and it kicks some serious ass.

Pros:
-People get the “F” outa your way when they hear you coming
-More Power
-looks a hell of a lot better

Cons:
-If you want to stay stealth you have to baby the throttle and keep the rev’s low
-Expensive
 

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Marine... here ya go - and this is from one ex-servicemember to another :) I don't blame you for wanting a new pipe...the stock one is lame/heavy/ugly.... you probably take pride in your bike and want to make it nicer, so if you want a pipe, for god's sake - GET ONE! Here are my thoughts... a slip on DOES offer performance gains...in the case of my 01 zx6r, my original m4 slipOn gave me 4 extra ponies - I have the dyno charts to prove it. I loved the sound and the look, and paid $130 used. A D&D full system can be purchased for $249 off of ebay, but in my opinion they are very loud. They don't sound good, they sound loud! - but, I'm sure there's a performance gain of 6 or so horses (give or take.) If I were you I would pay the $120-150 on ebay for a clean used slipon... I would rather have a nice slipon than a shitty full "show and blow" system - no offense to yall who bought D&D systems. Since my m4 slipon, i have since owned a full m4 system, as well as a full yosh rs3 race system (I liked the m4 better)
 

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Thanks blue...

I already bought a D&D slip on from localbar, the admin running this website....and its been great! For the price I paid and for what I got out of it...not a doubt in my mind its been a good purchase!

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I would only buy Akrapovic or Arrow exhausts, but there are no D&D here. THe Yoshimura's are hard to get here, expensive and too loud! There are the Vince&Hynes, but they are too loud, also.

I prefer the sound of a big grunt, not the sound of an open pipe (like V&H).

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