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oh yeah, i'm gonna need to get my racing license too. nearly forgot that! kinda sucks how you need a license for everything.


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here goes: for this first year i'm going to get used to my bike and how it handles and how i handle;), and i'm going to voluteer at a local racetrack to get a view of the whole scene. i'm gonna try get a job at a dealership so i can join their racing team or if not get them to sponser me.
then with the money i save i'm going to get another bike for racing and launch my succesful career in racing:D;). i just don't know if i should get a brand new bike and use the one i have now to race (cause then it won't matter too much if i wipe) or if i should use the new one cause it handles better. or should i get a used race bike instead?
how much does racing cost anyway? thanks in advance

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Buy a used racebike, Preferably from a good expert rider. They usually sell their bikes every year or so. You can usually get a competitive bike for $5,500 or so for a 600, you got to figure the bike probably has $15,000 into it and it will be set up well so you won't have to worry about that. And yes I am a licensed Expert Racer.
 

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Definitely go used unless you have a huge budget for aftermarket parts. Basically, you can find race bikes fully tweaked and modded for steals, and save yourself HUGE BUCKS and get a bike already tweaked for the track. Get an issue of ROADRACING WORLD and thumb through the classifieds, there's some GREAT deals on race bikes, some with very low miles and modded to the nines. You won't feel as sick dumping it either. Race mods (plastics, fuel system, suspension, tires, dampers, exhausts, cams, etc etc) add up in a crazy kind of hurry.

Racing is as expensive as the rider makes it ! YOU do the math. Better to learn racing as a backmarker within your limits for a while than racing above your limits to try to keep mid-pack in sight - at least on the pocketbook.

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I raced as amateur-hour with AFM (CA, USA) 1996-7.

My objective was never to win prizes. This differs from many of you. I had a career and day job that paid very well, something I wasn’t willing to throw away for motorcycles. If you want to win prizes, however, there will be significant sacrifices to make. The number of guys “making money” racing is vanishingly small, last time I heard, unless the game’s changed radically in six years.

If you're just out there honing your skills and doing the best you can within your means, you'll have a good time but win little or nothing. My highest finish was a sixth, for which I won Top Novice in Class (May 1996, Super Dinosaur). Not much, but it was everything to me. The guy who won first had a lot more investment in time, effort, and equipment than I did. I respected him, but racing was essentially his “mission” in life. He was one of many in AFM like that.

I couldn't agree more with guys who suggest buying used from Roadracing World or your local race club. Most clubs have websites. Almost all have fliers. Between them there are used racebikes ready for guys like you. Throw them down, it's not the end of the world. The cost of a "serious" race effort with a new bike can be frightening, even in the economical world of 600's. I laugh and walk away at the price of performance products and high-quality engine work. Well, if you need it, time to stop laughing and start paying. Go into this eyes-open. A guy on the Aprilia list recently had a serious racebike in his shop with $8,000 Ohlins forks, e.g.

I bought a used clunker and fixed it up. Bad move. It blew up constantly and I never really knew if it'd be there for me when I needed it. Thankfully, I spent all my (modest) dough on the suspension and brakes. As a result, it handled and stopped! The engine and chassis were sad and just got worse over time. Finally it chucked a rod, the best thing that could’ve happened in retrospect. Somehow I did not crash and take out three guys in the process. I parked it and sold the lot for $200, in pieces. Time to move on, so I raced my streetbike (Gixxer 750). That is another story.

Point is, start with something halfway-decent, albeit used. Something you can trust to "probably" not blow up mid-race, dumping you, the bike, and three other guys into the bushes. Something you can learn on, crash on, and by golly one day become fast on, too. If you want to win prizes, study and emulate those who do. Preparing to win is a whole different subject.

Hope that helps.


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wow thanks for your input guys :), it helps put things in perspective. i don't really know what i want to do in life. i have a whole bunch of things i want to do but if i'm doing one of them i won't really wnat or have time to do the others. what i mean to say is i really want to race and be one of those top riders you always hear about but i don't have enough money for it yet. do those top riders have other jobs?
one last thing: you don't have to license or register a bike you're using for racing only, right?

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