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The November issue of Motorcyclist magazine has a short article and one photo about Kawasaki working on a less faired ZX-10R as the new Z1000 for 2014.

It might compete better with the new FZ-09 850cc Yamaha 3-cylinder naked bike. It would be nice if the price is closer to the $8,000 FZ-09, since Yamaha dropped the price when moving from the FZ8 to the FZ-09.

Kawasaki and Suzuki did not have any bikes win the various 2013 motorcycles of the year categories.

Their best bang for the buck for 2013 is the Honda CB500F, or buying a Triumph Street Triple R for $600 more than the base model.

The magazine did compare the Kawasaki Versys (their 2008 motorcycle of the year) to a similar but much more expensive BMW, and the Versys did well with a bigger windshield and more luggage storage added.
 

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Did they change the specs on the engine? Jeff said "less faired ZX10R", but it still looks like today's Z1000. What did they change besides the aesthetics?
 

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From what I've read, it's supposed to be more like the current zx10r motor.


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From what I've read, it's supposed to be more like the current zx10r motor.


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My understanding as well, although I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't.

The FZ9 is an interesting bike, I got really excited about it when I first heard the news but I don't think they're in the same class.
 

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Some specifications that I found:

2013 Yamaha FZ8 Horsepower: 88.6 (the 2014 FZ-09 might have about the same horsepower, with more cc and 3 instead of 4 cylinders)
2014 FZ-09 Price (US): $7,990
2014 FZ-09 Wet Weight: 414 pounds, 53 pounds less than the 2013 FZ8.

2013 Kawasaki Z1000: 138 horsepower.
2013 Z1000 Price (US): $10,999
2013 Z1000 Wet Weight: 481 pounds.

2014 Ninja 1000 Price: $11,999
2014 Ninja 1000 Horsepower: 140 (the 2013 had 138 horsepower).
2014 Ninja 1000 Wet Weight: 509.4 pounds.
 

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The fz9 is on par with the z800... and it has a tiny tank and useless pillion.

That said its a great way to undercut Triumphs very popular offering.
 

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The 2014 Z1000 may have 160 horsepower- there was a brief mention in the November 2013 Motorcyclist magazine, but my guess is they will change the mapping for more mid-range torque and lower the peak horsepower to maybe 140 like the 2014 Ninja 1000 is now listed.

Better horsepower numbers will probably come later, for the magazine reviews. The factories usually estimate high and often measure at the crankshaft instead of from the back tire.
 

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It'll either be the ZX10 (998cc) motor or the ninja 1000 (1043cc) motor.

I don't see them drastically detuning a ZX10 motor, after all this is Kawasaki not Yamaha. Kawi would just use the 998cc motor with a restrictive exhaust and a street tune or just use the 1043cc motor and change the gearing around, not try and reinvent the wheel...
 

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It'll either be the ZX10 (998cc) motor or the ninja 1000 (1043cc) motor.

I don't see them drastically detuning a ZX10 motor, after all this is Kawasaki not Yamaha. Kawi would just use the 998cc motor with a restrictive exhaust and a street tune or just use the 1043cc motor and change the gearing around, not try and reinvent the wheel...
agreed!

and after it coming second in both 2010 and 2011 ducati streetfighter in the streetfighter comparison im sure kawi is going to bump up the ponies.

Im thinking they will go with the detuned zx10 motor.

Thats what the ducatti streetfighter does they use the 1198 motor:D
 

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I don't see how de-tuning the 998cc motor is gonna provide more low/midrange power over the current 1043 cc bike, esp considering the 1043cc was a new design. The could tune the current bike for even more of a low-end hit
 

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that article is actually form october 1. You can go to kawi's web page now and see the 2014 z1000. it's the 1043cc motor.

2014 Z1000 ABS Sport - Kawasaki.com
Yeah I went and looked...I have to admit I might be one of the few that prefer the original styling of the 03'-06' 1st generation. For the perfect Z would be that look with the 1043cc motor and frame, and an adjustable front fork, and re-style the 4-can look to at least clean up the rear end. I would like a simple 4 into 2 system, polished stainless or carbon black.
 

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Yeah I went and looked...I have to admit I might be one of the few that prefer the original styling of the 03'-06' 1st generation. For the perfect Z would be that look with the 1043cc motor and frame, and an adjustable front fork, and re-style the 4-can look to at least clean up the rear end. I would like a simple 4 into 2 system, polished stainless or carbon black.
Agreed. I like the first gen better as well, as far as looks go. I'm always poking around on craigslist for one. If I can find one in good shape for around $3k or less I think I'm gonna have to make room in the garage for it.


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i actually like how it looks.... kinda; very alien liek from AVP.

i can see dreads coming out of that headlight lol.
 

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The styling seems to be a love it or hate it kind of thing. I'm looking forward to seeing one in person. I didn't like the looks of Suzuki's B-King at all until I saw one in person. I think this may be the same deal.
 
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