[scootergmc]

Wick: I ran 29(f) and 32(r) on my Bridgestones. Didn't like them at all compared to the Sportecs I had previously on the RC. I just didn't like the feedback. Maybe it was just me getting used to the new bike. I'm adjusting the pressure and seeing where it goes. But a set of Rennsports is next in line.[8D]

 

[HoleInOne]

I have a set of RS1/RS2 waiting to go on on the 24th for my track day on the 25th. I'll keep that in mind regarding the OEMs. Thanks Scooter!

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[tommyboynjataol]

Holeinone,
It took me a good 2 months to really become one with my bike. (I wound always recommend that someone really gets used to their bike way before doing any stunts on it or taking it to the limits.) After that I started taking her to the track, and ripin up the turns. At first I had problems with the suspension. It was too hard in the rear. That problem really shook up my confidence in taking the bike to or past that angle of lean. After I got that corrected I could finally take the turns at maximum angle but I would still worry going through any turns. Then I got my scotts steering damper. The damper takes the edginess off the bike, despite what people have said, the '03 636 has very LITTLE stock edginess, but it is still there. After the I put the damper on it took 100% of that edginess away. It now gave me the confidence to take my bike even PAST the limits. The bridgestone tires that it came with are damn good tires. Do NOT think that they are not. Taking your bike to the limits has a lot more to do with just the tires. Before you knock these tires make sure your suspension is correctly setup to your weight and skill. Also your tires need to be super warm (even on the sides!) I would recommend a damper, and lastly but MOST importantly it comes down to your abilities and experience as a rider, and your familiarity with that bike.
and for those of you with the pilot sports, smae thing goes for them. Both excellent tires.

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[HoleInOne]

Thanks Tommy. I appreciate the feedback. I wasn't knocking the stock tires, I just wanted to know if they would hold up to some hard riding. I have a tendency to carry a bit of corner speed and that requires a bit of lean and I didn't want to have the front wash out on me again.

Cheers,

MM.

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[tommyboynjataol]

Yeah, I know you weren't, but i thought scooter might need to give them a chance. They really are great tires. Anyone who doesn't think so might do better on some soft race slicks that get only 1000 miles on them. These tires are street/track tires not ment for just racing or just the track. They balance wear with hardness and they did a nice job. Mine have almost 4,000 miles on them an dstill look brand new. But I do a lot of night riding and tires wear less at night then durring the day.

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[HoleInOne]

Uh... I'm guessing that I'm supposed to read between the lines here and assume that you ride a lot less aggressively at night (due to lack of visibility) than when in daylight causing them to "wear less at night" right? If not, then I shan't push the OEMs hard because you have no bloody idea what you're talking about!

Uh... I shag tires pretty quickly without trying. If your tires still look like new after 4K miles you must not ride very hard in the twisties. I can't even get my OEMs to last 4K miles. My OEMs on my RC51 died at 2K.

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[HoleInOne]

My question is for all you hard ridin' knee draggin' riders on OEM tires (Bridgestones). How are they at full lean?

I'm hesitant to explore the limits since 1) I lowsided on Easter on sticky hot D208GPAs from too much lean angle and the front washed out so I'm still a little nervous 2) I've never owned Bridgestones before so I don't know how they handle. I've modified my riding style to have more of my body hanging off the bike and less bike lean angle but I'm still a little "gun shy" if you know what I mean.

I'm went for a ride yesterday (about 100 miles of canyon) and was running 31psi front and rear and the tires seemed to hold pretty well when hot. I'm gonna push them a little harder next weekend so I wanted to check with you guys first to see if they do anything bad at lean.

Thanks!

MM.

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[scootergmc]

4k miles? I didn't get 1k out of my last set of Metzeler Sportecs (which are also designed for street/track) and I've never gotten over 3k miles out of any tire. Not to knock the Bridgestones, I'm willing to give anything a chance. I just know what worked well. Which is why I'm switching to Rennsports for my next set.......[8D]

 

[Andy_7676]

There is no way I would find it acceptable getting a couple thousand miles out of a street tire...

tires are way to expensive to be replacing them every couple of months IMHO....

now if you're running the track, then that's a different story...

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[tommyboynjataol]

Originally posted by HoleInOne

Uh... I'm guessing that I'm supposed to read between the lines here and assume that you ride a lot less aggressively at night (due to lack of visibility) than when in daylight causing them to "wear less at night" right? If not, then I shan't push the OEMs hard because you have no bloody idea what you're talking about!

Uh... I shag tires pretty quickly without trying. If your tires still look like new after 4K miles you must not ride very hard in the twisties. I can't even get my OEMs to last 4K miles. My OEMs on my RC51 died at 2K.



Tires last longer when ridden at night because they don't heat up as much. The roads in south florida get to way over 100 degrees durring the day.
The hotter the tire = the softer the tire = less tred life.
So don't mock someone if you don't understand something that is a comon fact, especially if their answering YOUR question.

Also another fact it looks like your not aware of but your tires actually wear more when all you do is go in a straight line, because the wear is all in the same spot. But If where you live all there is a twisties and turns then you'd be placing wear evenly over the entire tire so it would take longer to wear the tire.

By the way i keep 35-42PSI in rear and 32-36PSI in front. I've never heard of replacing a tire after only 1,000 miles. But sounds way too expensive for my taste. It takes me like 150 miles just to break in the tire. I dont know why your tires need replacing after only 1000 miles scooter. Either your running at a super low PSI or your doing to many burnouts!

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[HoleInOne]

Tommy,

No offense meant. My bad. I was just playing around.

Scooter and I tend to ride hard in the twisties and wear out our tires pretty quickly. Especially on the sides. I'm not saying that you don't ride hard or are not capable of riding hard. I'm just saying that the "way" Scooter and I ride shag tires pretty quickly. That's all.

We like our tires really hot and sticky. We run 29-32psi in our tires when we ride the canyons because that allows them to heat up more quickly and get sticky enough for us to start really railing on them. The downside to that is that the tires booger up pretty quickly and so we go through tires more often than you would.

Please ride safe - especially since your ride at night!

Cheers,

MM.



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[Andy_7676]

makes more sense since you guys are running super low pressures inyour tires...

i run like 36-38 front and 42 rear


never had any troulbe with running higher pressures and the tires seem to last alot longer....


ofcourse I'm sure I dont push my bike as hard as you guy are...

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[scootergmc]

Tommy: Nobody is knocking you. We obviously have different riding styles.

 

[HoleInOne]

Well, spent some quality time on Palomar Mountain's South Grade aka Tight Side today. My feeling is that the rear tire is pretty good and soft. The front - jury is still out on that one. Might be because I ran too low a PSI for this particular tire (the sidewalls may be softer than the Metzlers and Dunlops) but the front felt a little squirly when pushed hard. Might be that I'm still a little psyched out from my crash a month ago when my front washed out and I low sided. Dunno...

PS: the rear tire boogers up like crazy! After 3 runs on the mountain I looked like I just finished 5 laps on a track! Well not that bad but you get the picture. All in all these aren't bad for OEM tires but the rear won't last more than 1,500 miles for sure. Well, the sides won't but i'm sure the centers will be fine.

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[minytrker]

If you ride the twisties alot and ride hard you wll eat up tires in 2000-3000 miles. Its easy to eat a set of tires in a couple days up at deals gap. Alot depends on how fast your coming into corners and coming out. I tend to come into a corner a little hotter than most and brake at the last minute to setup and then Im pretty hard on the gas, my riding style just happens to be hard on tires. Its even worse on a liter bike because of all the torque, when your on the gas its putting alot more power down through the rear wheel.

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