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This is also one of the reviews that found the weight of both the ZX-6R and the ZX-6RR to be a tad lower than that of the smaller-tank R6.
 

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Thanks for the post. As a rider of a 03 636, I am biased towards Kawasaki's. I love to see that Tommy Hayden is cleaning up in the AMA Superstock class against the GSXR750's. A testamtent to the 636.

I am puzzled about the results in World Supersport and AMA Supersport 600 racing. The 6RR is not making such a good showing other than Tommy's 3rd place finish at Fontana. Ther might be a number of reasons for this:

1. The 600 Supersport class's level of rider talent is above the 750 Superstock
2. Since it is a new bike, the race team is adjusting to setting up the motorcycle.

What are your thoughts???????
 

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I Read a English motor bike mag called "Superbike"
and they did a shootout between zx6r636, zx6rr,gsxr600,
r6,cbr600rr,ducati 749s
and the zx6r 636 won hands down

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Originally posted by dj dunzie

OVERALL SCORE:
Kawasaki ZX636R... 73 pts.
Yamaha YZF-R6... 62 pts.
Honda CBR600RR... 58 pts.
Kawasaki ZX-6RR... 57 pts.
Suzuki GSX-R600... 56 pts.

Best Lap Times By Bike:
Kawasaki ZX636R... 1:25.915 (Toye)
Suzuki GSX-R600... 1:26.524 (Ulrich)
Kawasaki ZX-6RR... 1:26.597 (Ulrich)
Yamaha YZF-R6... 1:27.322 (Toye)
Honda CBR600RR... 1:27.588 (Toye)

Best AVERAGE Lap Time Among All Testers, All Laps:
Kawasaki ZX636R... 1:27.323
Kawasaki ZX-6RR... 1:28.233
Honda CBR600RR... 1:29.396
Suzuki GSX-R600... 1:29.940
Yamaha YZF-R6... 1:30.055

Best Lap Time By Rider:
Toye - 1:25.915 (Kawasaki ZX636R)
Ulrich - 1:26.524 (Suzuki GSX-R600)
Haskovec - 1:27.248 (Kawasaki ZX636R)
Sorbo - 1:27.608 (Kawasaki ZX636R)
Hannas - 1:28.281 (Kawasaki ZX636R)

SAE Horsepower RW:
Kawasaki ZX636R... 102.11hp
Honda CBR600RR... 101.2hp
Yamaha YZF-R6... 99.6hp
Suzuki GSX-R600... 98.8hp
Kawasaki ZX-6RR... 94.8hp

SAE Torque RW:
Kawasaki ZX636R... 45.0 ft-lbs
Suzuki GSX-R600... 44.9 ft-lbs
Honda CBR600RR... 43.7 ft-lbs
Yamaha YZF-R6... 43.1 ft-lbs
Kawasaki ZX-6RR... 40.9 ft-lbs

Measured Wet Weight:
Kawasaki ZX-6RR... 413 lbs
Kawasaki ZX636R... 414 lbs
Yamaha YZF-R6... 415 lbs
Suzuki GSX-R600... 429 lbs
Honda CBR600RR... 442 lbs

What's interesting to me in this shootout (which the 636 wins) (besides the fact that the Honda at running weight is 29 pounds heavier than the Kawasakis!!!) is that they use REAL AMA racers (active ones... check 750 superstock, superbike, and formula extreme and you'll see some of them are top 10 guys!!!), and even though in stock trim the ZX6RR is down on power, it gets the third best lap time, and the second best AVERAGE lap times on track! Says to me that racers can really put the 6RR's trick bits to good use. When asked which bike they would take as their platform for a racebike, 4 out of 5 picked the 636, but when the 636 was left out of the equation, 2 out of 5 picked the 6RR.

This shootout was a good read, if slightly track-focussed, and pretty in-depth. I like the fact that it's active top 10 racers doing the testing instead of magazine columnists with SOME riding skill. They broke the ratings into 20 categories, and without sounding biased, the ZX636R romped... sweet.

"That thing is raceable." said Sorbo. "That thing has clearly got the most power of all the others. It really accelerates hard from turn one to turn two. That power is a kick in the pants."

"That thing has got some nuts! It's got some power. It's fast!" said Toye, "and the braking power is just retarded. Those things are almost too intense, but I could get used to them."


"Keep yer feet on the pegs and your right hand cranked."
Interesting article.

As one mentioned maybe they are working on the finer adjusment to the 6RR...None the less it is good to see Kawasaki is still working the leader of the pack.

Let's not forget the 600cc class will not allow the 636r in. Both bike did prove well in the stats. As your stated, they need to use the (Force Luke) tricks. Who know maybe they (Kawasaki) do have some thing up their sleeves, or maybe even the after markets do to really trick out the 6RR.

Anyhow, do you even sleep :).

Great summary of the articale to read.

Thanks,

Fly.

Point A to point B is always faster when you Fly!
 

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Originally posted by mfzx6r

Dj dunzie
I Read a English motor bike mag called "Superbike"
and they did a shootout between zx6r636, zx6rr,gsxr600,
r6,cbr600rr,ducati 749s
and the zx6r 636 won hands down

mfzx6r [^]
Yeah - I have a summary of that article posted here:

/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4041

"Keep yer feet on the pegs and your right hand cranked."
 

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results not surprising. :D

I'm really getting tired of the crap spewed in Motorcyclist magazine. (Disclaimer: I don't want the 636 to be voted #1 all over the place, lest every f'ing squid goes out and buys one - turning it into the next ubitquitous Yamaha R1/R6). BUT...the clowns at Motorcyclist magazine either don't know how to f'ing ride or are paid off by Honda.

Let's see...first 2-page ad spread in the magazine is a *Honda* ad...and every other issue there's some mention of a Motorcyclist staffer crashing a test bike.

So, I guess I was right on both counts: they can't ride worth sh*t, and they're paid off by Honda. :D

inca jones

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OVERALL SCORE:
Kawasaki ZX636R... 73 pts.
Yamaha YZF-R6... 62 pts.
Honda CBR600RR... 58 pts.
Kawasaki ZX-6RR... 57 pts.
Suzuki GSX-R600... 56 pts.

Best Lap Times By Bike:
Kawasaki ZX636R... 1:25.915 (Toye)
Suzuki GSX-R600... 1:26.524 (Ulrich)
Kawasaki ZX-6RR... 1:26.597 (Ulrich)
Yamaha YZF-R6... 1:27.322 (Toye)
Honda CBR600RR... 1:27.588 (Toye)

Best AVERAGE Lap Time Among All Testers, All Laps:
Kawasaki ZX636R... 1:27.323
Kawasaki ZX-6RR... 1:28.233
Honda CBR600RR... 1:29.396
Suzuki GSX-R600... 1:29.940
Yamaha YZF-R6... 1:30.055

Best Lap Time By Rider:
Toye - 1:25.915 (Kawasaki ZX636R)
Ulrich - 1:26.524 (Suzuki GSX-R600)
Haskovec - 1:27.248 (Kawasaki ZX636R)
Sorbo - 1:27.608 (Kawasaki ZX636R)
Hannas - 1:28.281 (Kawasaki ZX636R)

SAE Horsepower RW:
Kawasaki ZX636R... 102.11hp
Honda CBR600RR... 101.2hp
Yamaha YZF-R6... 99.6hp
Suzuki GSX-R600... 98.8hp
Kawasaki ZX-6RR... 94.8hp

SAE Torque RW:
Kawasaki ZX636R... 45.0 ft-lbs
Suzuki GSX-R600... 44.9 ft-lbs
Honda CBR600RR... 43.7 ft-lbs
Yamaha YZF-R6... 43.1 ft-lbs
Kawasaki ZX-6RR... 40.9 ft-lbs

Measured Wet Weight:
Kawasaki ZX-6RR... 413 lbs
Kawasaki ZX636R... 414 lbs
Yamaha YZF-R6... 415 lbs
Suzuki GSX-R600... 429 lbs
Honda CBR600RR... 442 lbs

What's interesting to me in this shootout (which the 636 wins) (besides the fact that the Honda at running weight is 29 pounds heavier than the Kawasakis!!!) is that they use REAL AMA racers (active ones... check 750 superstock, superbike, and formula extreme and you'll see some of them are top 10 guys!!!), and even though in stock trim the ZX6RR is down on power, it gets the third best lap time, and the second best AVERAGE lap times on track! Says to me that racers can really put the 6RR's trick bits to good use. When asked which bike they would take as their platform for a racebike, 4 out of 5 picked the 636, but when the 636 was left out of the equation, 2 out of 5 picked the 6RR.

This shootout was a good read, if slightly track-focussed, and pretty in-depth. I like the fact that it's active top 10 racers doing the testing instead of magazine columnists with SOME riding skill. They broke the ratings into 20 categories, and without sounding biased, the ZX636R romped... sweet.

"That thing is raceable." said Sorbo. "That thing has clearly got the most power of all the others. It really accelerates hard from turn one to turn two. That power is a kick in the pants."

"That thing has got some nuts! It's got some power. It's fast!" said Toye, "and the braking power is just retarded. Those things are almost too intense, but I could get used to them."


"Keep yer feet on the pegs and your right hand cranked."
 
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