Well I wish I'd read these articles about running in an engine b4 I rode my bike home from the dealer!! My question is, I've been running the bike pretty modestly (<8000rpms) and I've done about 300miles on it. Is it too late to make a good impression on the rings to help them seat properly or has the damage already been done??
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Wolf, I'm no expert myself...but I was under the assumption of not quite hitting that RPM range that quick (maybe it was.......yup, just pulled out my '00 manual "0-500 miles, no more than 4K RPM/500-1000 miles, no more than 6K RPM).
Take that with a grain of salt, but remember that they made the bike and know what's up....but I'd continue to keep it easy for another 200 miles just to be on the safe side. Good luck man, and enjoy!
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I doubt you've done any damage, that # is really, really, cautious to leave a big margin of safety.
4000rpm is crazy, you cant even keep up on the highway.
Some guys ride it hard right off the showroom floor, does not appear to do much.
I'd still reccomend keeping it low, your sub 8000 should be fine, for the first while.
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4000rpm is crazy, you cant even keep up on the highway.
Some guys ride it hard right off the showroom floor, does not appear to do much.
I'd still reccomend keeping it low, your sub 8000 should be fine, for the first while.
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I took mine up to 5k, with occasional quick blips up to 7 or so, for the first 500 miles, then every additional 100 miles took it 1k further until I got to about 12k (on the "blips"), then I stopped worrying about it. Bike is running fantastic and was looking good at the 7,500-mile service.
One important thing: Vary the RPMs as much as possible. Droning around at constant engine speeds is bad during break-in.
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One important thing: Vary the RPMs as much as possible. Droning around at constant engine speeds is bad during break-in.
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If I ever get a new motorcycle I think I will break it in this way: http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm
I don't trust the Moto Man bit... I've heard waaaaay too many educated people slamming his theories and so on... I honestly am leaning towards the method Rob Lee posted in this forum a week or two ago where some industry experts (Vance & Hines, Muzzy, etc) were questioned. Who is Moto Man? Has he ever POSTED his credentials? Ever work on a factory superbike or any other race project? Is he reputable? I dunno... maybe he is... but I know for SURE that the guys in the article Rob Lee posted are...
It's a hot topic though isn't it?
"Keep yer feet on the pegs and your right hand cranked."
It's a hot topic though isn't it?
"Keep yer feet on the pegs and your right hand cranked."
Here's a quote from a post put up by another well-respected guy from another forum I'm a part of regarding the moto-man feature:
Of course the rings don't seal 360 degrees around the piston. All rings have a gap in it by design. All modern engines are designed to handle blow by gases. I don't know of 1 modern conventional engine with a completely sealed crankcase.
As for using the pressure of combustion gases to help the ring seal, that is absolutely ludicrous. A quick 30 minutes read of fluid dynamics 101 text book will prove him wrong.
The F3 piston picture is really funny. One piston is new and the other one use used. Period. Otherwise, how can one piston be completely clean (even on top, where the combustion takes place)?
I hope everyone reading MotoMan's page take it as a joke and don't break in your bike as he suggests. I guess who ever created MotoMan must be the same people as those who created SuperGreg --> http://zmax.org/supergreg/sgdotcom/
"Keep yer feet on the pegs and your right hand cranked."
Of course the rings don't seal 360 degrees around the piston. All rings have a gap in it by design. All modern engines are designed to handle blow by gases. I don't know of 1 modern conventional engine with a completely sealed crankcase.
As for using the pressure of combustion gases to help the ring seal, that is absolutely ludicrous. A quick 30 minutes read of fluid dynamics 101 text book will prove him wrong.
The F3 piston picture is really funny. One piston is new and the other one use used. Period. Otherwise, how can one piston be completely clean (even on top, where the combustion takes place)?
I hope everyone reading MotoMan's page take it as a joke and don't break in your bike as he suggests. I guess who ever created MotoMan must be the same people as those who created SuperGreg --> http://zmax.org/supergreg/sgdotcom/
"Keep yer feet on the pegs and your right hand cranked."
I broke my bike in by taking it easy for the first 500 miles, then changed the oil ran it harder about up to or so for the next 200 miles then just started riding it harder and harder. My friend rode his easy for 500 miles changed the oil and then ran it all the redline with 500 or so miles. Both bikes run the same now with almost 20,000 miles on them each. Also took a brand new R6 and rode it easy for about 200 miles then started doing tricks on it and riding it hard, runs fine. I build 400+ hp engines for my drag car and break the cam in for about 25 mins @2000-2500 rpm and then put the motor in the car and drag race it. Never had a problem. Asking how to break in a motor is like asking someone which brand is better, your gonna get a million differnt ways to do it and you know everyones own way is best,lol.
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